Tom Turner Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Standard wise yes, but its not run a million times better. But what do you really care about most? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 But what do you really care about most? The Polish EL or our EL? There isn't any competition is there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 More money and a larger fan base. Speedway is amongst the top sports in Poland so attracts more attention. It's funny but not sure if it's a myth or because it is a very small sample size but I have had a number Polish guys working for me over the years and none of them have ever supported speedway and most have never heard of Tomasz Gollob! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) It's funny but not sure if it's a myth or because it is a very small sample size but I have had a number Polish guys working for me over the years and none of them have ever supported speedway and most have never heard of Tomasz Gollob! OMG! Noooo! Heresy! you can't go against the ad nauseum mantra that Nigel Pearson chimes no matter what country or city or town or 'not to be found on a map or even exist on Wikipedia outpost' that stages a speedway meeting......"they sure do love their speedway in (insert location)" Edited February 5, 2014 by manchesterpaul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 It's funny but not sure if it's a myth or because it is a very small sample size but I have had a number Polish guys working for me over the years and none of them have ever supported speedway and most have never heard of Tomasz Gollob! It would be fair say speedway is amongst the top sports in Poland, but it's not the most popular and is quite regionalised in its appeal. It's probably been a couple of years since I last looked, but whilst the Polish Elite League probably still has the highest average attendances of any sport in Poland, it's on the back of a relatively small number of teams and meetings. Polish football still has by far the higher aggregate attendance, and in terms of popular following, even basketball is probably bigger in the national consciousness. But looking at it from the another prospective, I bet there are a lot more Polish people working in our country, than British people working over there. So what does that tell you. The simple fact is that average wages are much higher in the UK than Poland, but that doesn't apply to speedway. Me! , I would much rather live in this country, where life is far more enjoyable, and make do with lesser standard of speedway, then live in Poland. Life is what you make it, and Poland has is relatively empty compared to the UK and has its nice bits as well. The main reason not to live there is wages, but if you even a modest amount of money I'd imagine you can have a high standard of living indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 You mean the young men who risk their lives for your entertainment? No they don't. if "a million times better" means:- paying out more money than you take in. propping the league up with dodgy money. only having one team turn up for the showpiece televised play off final. Throw in not paying many riders for months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Ticking time bomb in Sweden and Poland financially far more so than here. No wonder the speedway mercenaries turn their back on Britain to chase the cash, good luck while it lasts i just hope we don't rush to take them back when the bubble bursts Absolutely. There have been many cases of riders not being paid in both Sweden and Poland and the amounts in some cases are quite staggering. Let's wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 No they don't. Throw in not paying many riders for months. And let's not forget the Poles habit of conjuring up spurious fines at the end of the season to avoid paying what they owe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Turner Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Ticking time bomb in Sweden and Poland financially far more so than here. No wonder the speedway mercenaries turn their back on Britain to chase the cash, good luck while it lasts i just hope we don't rush to take them back when the bubble bursts Absolutely. There have been many cases of riders not being paid in both Sweden and Poland and the amounts in some cases are quite staggering. Let's wait and see. Oh get real... that bomb will be ticking for an awful lot longer and their bubble will never burst! It certainly can't get any worse over there than it already is over here. People don't get paid all the time in all lines of work. There could be many reasons. A poor cash flow for example doesn't mean there isn't good money. Polish speedway is a million times better in almost every way. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Edited February 5, 2014 by Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 People don't get paid all the time in all lines of work. Are things getting tough in the sweet shop industry then Tommy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Oh get real... that bomb will be ticking for an awful lot longer and their bubble will never burst! It certainly can't get any worse over there than it already is over here. People don't get paid all the time in all lines of work. There could be many reasons. A poor cash flow for example doesn't mean there isn't good money. Polish speedway is a million times better in almost every way. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. British Speedway, even in the events of Belle Vue v Poole are yet to sink to the levels that Polish Speedway sank too last season in their play-off final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Oh get real... that bomb will be ticking for an awful lot longer and their bubble will never burst! It certainly can't get any worse over there than it already is over here. People don't get paid all the time in all lines of work. There could be many reasons. A poor cash flow for example doesn't mean there isn't good money. Polish speedway is a million times better in almost every way. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. If our promoters invested in training & stadium facilities rather than big name riders we'd eventually end up with a similar product. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Turner Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 British Speedway, even in the events of Belle Vue v Poole are yet to sink to the levels that Polish Speedway sank too last season in their play-off final. If our promoters invested in training & stadium facilities rather than big name riders we'd eventually end up with a similar product. I'd rather have a year of brilliant speedway with all the best names in the sport and have the play offs ruined than the "product" over here. We did have a similar product over here for years and years until the promoters ruined it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy jimmy Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Torun have a super team, and will win many matches by 40+ points. Will it be great speedway? People on here winge like crazy when one team is seen to be so much stronger than the rest, but Poland do it and wow.....aren't they good. Of the stars who are missing, I think only Holder, Emil and Hampel are really missed in making our product a lot better. The guy I would really want to see is Laguta, he is totally crazy! I have a feeling that Lindgren will be back somewhere in the UK come June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 If our promoters invested in training & stadium facilities rather than big name riders we'd eventually end up with a similar product. Some of our promoters, Buster Chapman, are investing in their stadiums and training! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 But the vast majority don't! She is right, far too much money goes into the pockets of a few riders. The last 15 years Sky money could have been spent so much more wisely. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Some of our promoters, Buster Chapman, are investing in their stadiums and training! Shame he doesn't invest in riders as well rather than loaning riders every season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Shame he doesn't invest in riders as well rather than loaning riders every season. It's a pity, more promoters, didn't put more importance in stadiums and training like Buster. It has been proved over the years that rider assets, create more problems than their worth. Rider assets are of no benefit to speedway what's so ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Plus the clubs who loan out riders will get a healthy return in loan fees.....Lynn could have bought Mads in 2011 for a modest fee but instead Swindon are about to benefit from a fourth successive season of loan money. Everyone's a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Plus the clubs who loan out riders will get a healthy return in loan fees.....Lynn could have bought Mads in 2011 for a modest fee but instead Swindon are about to benefit from a fourth successive season of loan money. Everyone's a winner. So what happens when the current brand of riders going on loan each season retire?. I understand what you're saying but the facts are the rider pool is getting less & surely it will become a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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