ProudtobeaBrummie Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 But of the current 15 there would of been 10 last season... It's a low total and all down to changing things around... How can torun have c.holder d.ward t.gollob and e.sayfudinov in the same team I wouldn't mind seeing them next season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason.C Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 More money and a larger fan base. Speedway is amongst the top sports in Poland so attracts more attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 But of the current 15 there would of been 10 last season... It's a low total and all down to changing things around... How can torun have c.holder d.ward t.gollob and e.sayfudinov in the same team I wouldn't mind seeing them next season... No points limit!! But will it all be afforded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 But of the current 15 there would of been 10 last season... It's a low total and all down to changing things around... How can torun have c.holder d.ward t.gollob and e.sayfudinov in the same team I wouldn't mind seeing them next season... Yeah, it would be wonderful, to be able to go and watch that every week. but life's not like that. You have highlighted a scenario that is probably one of the good things you can find in Poland. To achieve this , They have massive corporate sponsorship in place to finance all these riders. The point limit is of little importance. But looking at it from the another prospective, I bet there are a lot more Polish people working in our country, than British people working over there. So what does that tell you. Me! , I would much rather live in this country, where life is far more enjoyable, and make do with lesser standard of speedway, then live in Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Ticking time bomb in Sweden and Poland financially far more so than here. No wonder the speedway mercenaries turn their back on Britain to chase the cash, good luck while it lasts i just hope we don't rush to take them back when the bubble bursts 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 There is some serious money involved in some tracks in Poland and Torun are top of the list. They are like Man City by buying who they want and will never see the financial rewards by just meetings. Where the money comes from is another subject but you would not see the likes of that in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Where the money comes from is another subject but you would not see the likes of that in this country. I believe we have banking laws over here that would make it difficult 😱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pedaler Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 No wonder the speedway mercenaries turn their back on Britain to chase the cash, good luck while it lasts i just hope we don't rush to take them back when the bubble bursts You mean the young men who risk their lives for your entertainment? So they try to earn a living as best as they can. It's what pays their bills for them and sets them up for life after 40. If you don't like these mercenaries, stick to the National League, and you won't have to worry about them. Let me guess though, you are a voluntary worker? Charity worker? Missionary? Or do you have an ordinary job like most others and also try to get the best pay for the job that you do? Yeah, you can offer yourself up for as much pay as you can get just don't let others do the same though will you? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 You mean the young men who risk their lives for your entertainment? I've got the utmost respect and admiration for those who are brave enough to race a speedway bike. However, especially when it comes to motor sports, i can't agree when it's claimed that the riders/drivers risk their lives to entertain you! Sorry but i find it difficult to believe that be it footballers or motor sport competitors they make a decision to become a participant in a sport in order to entertain people (There are stages and show business and pantomimes for that). Yes for sure once in the sport some do like to 'entertain' the fans but it isn't why they went into the sport. It isn't why they invest a fortune to break into and continue in the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Turner Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 But of the current 15 there would of been 10 last season... It's a low total and all down to changing things around... How can torun have c.holder d.ward t.gollob and e.sayfudinov in the same team I wouldn't mind seeing them next season... In short, the Polish know what they are doing when it comes to business in Speedway. Promoters over here are a bunch of buffoons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 In short, the Polish know what they are doing when it comes to business in Speedway. Promoters over here are a bunch of buffoons. What about the constant fines season after season for not having paid debts, riders, running play offs with 1 team walking out. Poland is the dream but its by no means perfect! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pedaler Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 i can't agree when it's claimed that the riders/drivers risk their lives to entertain you! First question - are you or do you seek to be entertained by the riders when you go to the speedway? If so, then whether they do so directly or indirectly, they are the ones entertaining you. Second question - have you discussed your point of view with the Richardson family? Or the Duh family? or the Olsson family? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 First question - are you or do you seek to be entertained by the riders when you go to the speedway?What's that got to do with it? He might seek entertainment by watching funny youtube clips of bears falling out of trees, but the bear certainly didn't do it for his entertainment. Riders race Speedway for financial gain and for the adrenaline buzz. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) And how many of them will NOT be in the GP the season after. I can think of ONE banker. I think Pink Floyd did a song about him. Come in #37 Your Time Is Up. He might seek entertainment by watching funny youtube clips of bears falling out of trees, but the bear certainly didn't do it for his entertainment. Bears are very complicated animals and have been known to do the craziest things. Maybe falling out of trees is their equivalent of Neknomination? Edited February 4, 2014 by pandorum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Turner Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 What about the constant fines season after season for not having paid debts, riders, running play offs with 1 team walking out. Poland is the dream but its by no means perfect! Yet some how it's still a million times better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Yet some how it's still a million times better if "a million times better" means:- paying out more money than you take in. propping the league up with dodgy money. only having one team turn up for the showpiece televised play off final. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Turner Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) if "a million times better" means:- paying out more money than you take in. propping the league up with dodgy money. only having one team turn up for the showpiece televised play off final. Yeah, if need be. The quality of racing is outstanding and has been consistently for years. So yeah, if dodgy money produces consistently good world class racing then bring it on. Edited February 4, 2014 by Synikalle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 98 witches foursome rickardsson/gollob/Louis/nicholls....now that would of been a super league against torun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) First question - are you or do you seek to be entertained by the riders when you go to the speedway? If so, then whether they do so directly or indirectly, they are the ones entertaining you. Second question - have you discussed your point of view with the Richardson family? Or the Duh family? or the Olsson family? Answer 1. What i said originally still holds as in i disagree with your statement that those riders enter the sport in order to entertain people. They enter the sport for sporting reasons and the thrill of racing a speedway bike. Answer 2. Dear oh dear! I was actually going to head off any misguided references to riders who had lost their lives or were seriously injured. I decided against it as i considered nobody would use such tragedies as a counter argument, particularly as it doesn't disprove what i said at all. Have any of the relatives told you that those riders decided to take up speedway because they wanted to entertain people? I think the reasons i gave for current riders and those sadly passed away are the actual reasons. Edited February 5, 2014 by manchesterpaul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Yet some how it's still a million times better Standard wise yes, but its not run a million times better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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