robolots Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Can someone who has links to the speedway star please tell me why they never actually report on anything worthwhile? It seems to me it's not what you know but who you know and they never seem to want to disagree with anyone or anything that might upset certain members of the Scb, Bspa or others within a very tight speedway circle!! It's the same in general with the letters page as I know various people myself included that have written in over various subjects and issues but they never get published or contacted etc etc. They will always publish letters though along the lines of "we had nice fish and chips at Rye House in 1987" but never if anyone disagreeing with the partly line!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Can someone who has links to the speedway star please tell me why they never actually report on anything worthwhile? It seems to me it's not what you know but who you know and they never seem to want to disagree with anyone or anything that might upset certain members of the Scb, Bspa or others within a very tight speedway circle!! It's the same in general with the letters page as I know various people myself included that have written in over various subjects and issues but they never get published or contacted etc etc. They will always publish letters though along the lines of "we had nice fish and chips at Rye House in 1987" but never if anyone disagreeing with the partly line!!! I think they probably have to have a "don't bite the hand that feeds you" approach. It certainly pays to be on good terms with any potential sources of information. I'm enjoying my on line version to be honest. I think if it tried to become a scandal mag. Or something other than what it is, it would probably decline in it's appeal. It might be interesting to read Philip Rising's reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I'll keep it short:- The last thing Speedway needs is published negativity 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I'll keep it short:- The last thing Speedway needs is published negativity But why?98% of those who read the Star will be fans who know basically what goes on.Surely giving them a "worthwhile story" won't do much damage if any to the sport.Of course it might upset some within the sport,but as Phil has said on many occasions the Star aren't quite the darlings of the promoters that some believe.They have had their run ins and threats of bans selling the mag at tracks.I doubt the Star could ever harm speedway as much as tv coverage of poorly attended meetings on tracks that the riders find it hard to stay on their bikes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 yeah, bit of controversy would help, its too safe at times, and need opinions and plain talking..views always differ, but strong views create interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I'll keep it short:- The last thing Speedway needs is published negativity That's why it's never in the news... even Speedway Star struggles to fill its pages and resorts to vintage write-ups (best thing in the mag) to fill pages... when it's not acting as a insert for James Easter's travel mag. Only joking, Mr Raising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Can someone who has links to the speedway star please tell me why they never actually report on anything worthwhile? It seems to me it's not what you know but who you know and they never seem to want to disagree with anyone or anything that might upset certain members of the Scb, Bspa or others within a very tight speedway circle!! It's the same in general with the letters page as I know various people myself included that have written in over various subjects and issues but they never get published or contacted etc etc. They will always publish letters though along the lines of "we had nice fish and chips at Rye House in 1987" but never if anyone disagreeing with the partly line!!! I have written several letters over the years complaining at the lack of passing, poor view and facilities, track state, state of the bogs and burgers, lack of atmosphere ,no proper dress code, cold weather, and admission costs at Blunsdon, none are ever published. Edited January 25, 2014 by Mad Moose 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Surely giving them a "worthwhile story" won't do much damage if any to the sport.Of course it might upset some within the sport,but as Phil has said on many occasions the Star aren't quite the darlings of the promoters that some believe. I don't think anyone's asking for a scandal mag, but a bit of in-depth questioning of things like television deals, the SGP arrangements, what Go-Speed do, and so on... The type of thing the press used to do. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I think they probably have to have a "don't bite the hand that feeds you" approach. It certainly pays to be on good terms with any potential sources of information. I'm enjoying my on line version to be honest. I think if it tried to become a scandal mag. Or something other than what it is, it would probably decline in it's appeal. It might be interesting to read Philip Rising's reaction. On line version of Speedway Star?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paulco Posted January 25, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Another week , another pop at the Speedway Star . Just accept it for what it is , a well published , professional , well written and entertaining magazine . If you want contraversy and negativity , there's always the BSF . 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I don't think anyone's asking for a scandal mag, but a bit of in-depth questioning of things like television deals, the SGP arrangements, what Go-Speed do, and so on... The type of thing the press used to do. Nope.As far as i can see no one has asked for a scandal mag.No one even mentioned one until you did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 On line version of Speedway Star?. http://www.exacteditions.com/shop.do;jsessionid=C5E457331DFF15141E4C07FA5B4D36A4 Yes, it's available from the above, you have to pay a subscription. http://www.exacteditions.com/shop.do;jsessionid=C5E457331DFF15141E4C07FA5B4D36A4 Yes, it's available from the above, you have to pay a subscription. Press the sports section for details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 thank you iris,some people don't read whats wriiten! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Nope.As far as i can see no one has asked for a scandal mag.No one even mentioned one until you did Erm, I did! No matter though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Erm, I did! No matter though. Oops.Got that wrong then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 In john berrys book he observed that ss used to be quite unafraid to challenge the establishment. However, once mr rising was part ofcthe group which purchased the star and went from being just editor to psrt owner, the star became much less wiling to be out spoken. Would be interested if phil thinks there is any truth to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I don't think anyone's asking for a scandal mag, but a bit of in-depth questioning of things like television deals, the SGP arrangements, what Go-Speed do, and so on... The type of thing the press used to do. I agree, Humph. You don't have to descend to the depths of the gutter press, but equally you don't have to be completely passive in the face of corruption, awful track surfaces, poor treatment of fans, inadequate facilities and more. Speedway Star used to be (some years ago admittedly)a magazine that wasn't scared to be critical when it was due and I don't see why it can't be again. In defence of Phil Rising, some of the best articles I have read raising points of concern were written by him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Can someone who has links to the speedway star please tell me why they never actually report on anything worthwhile? What do you want them to report on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Another week , another pop at the Speedway Star . Just accept it for what it is , a well published , professional , well written and entertaining magazine . If you want contraversy and negativity , there's always the BSF . Agree with that Paulco, the staff at the SS do an excellent job in getting a comprehensive speedway news magazine out every week, including all the results from Europe and beyond.... It's not a criticism of the SS and the service they provide, but it would be good for someone to do some in-depth analysis of contentious events such as BV Vs Poole last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 What do you want them to report on. A good investigation in to the new Television Deal would be a start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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