ProudtobeaBrummie Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 All very good points/views and its a friendly thread for once so far... Klindt is can improve I liked him when he guested last year for us and done ok in the play offs ... Point taken about lambert I hope he does well as I've sponsored him this year so lynn are my second team now... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Exactly. I think any second string under about 4.5 is great value. That would have to be Nicolai Klindt then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I think given the structure of the league this year, 2nd strings putting points on their average will much easier than a normal situation. I think a better way to judge the most improved will be head to head results. There are riders with proven el experience and for me they will be the ones most improved. So your proctors, skornikis etc should be putting a couple of points on their averages. The pl second strings, if you like, and there are quite a few, are unknown quantities for me. Palm toft to name one. Then there are riders like lambert as second strings, how will that fair? You just don't know. He has potential, but is essentially an nl standard rider until he proves otherwise, and that is the key for me. Those teams with the unknown, like kings Lynn, if those riders deliver then those teams will make the play offs without a doubt. Same applies for those foreign riders on a 4:00 average. Porsing milic etc. The most improved rider for me though, and it pains me because I wanted him at BV, will be garrity by a country mile. Best reserve by a long long way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Exactly. I think any second string under about 4.5 is great value. Kyle Howarth, averaging around 6 while at Swindon but Coventry sign him on a 4 point average. Its just a shame he misses a few meetings! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmiler Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Chris Harris Ty Proctor Mikkel Bech Mikkel Michelsen Jason Garrity Josh Grajczonek Rory Schlein Will be the highlights this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Chris Harris Ty Proctor Mikkel Bech Mikkel Michelsen Jason Garrity Josh Grajczonek Rory Schlein Will be the highlights this year. Would agree with the above riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 The most valuable rider isnt neccesary going to be the rider who adds the most to their average. If the new heat format is as expected, id anticipate third heat leaders to on average drop a point off their average, wheras srcond strings should add a point and a half. Excluding draft riders id tip robert lambert to add the most to his average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnboy Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Rory Schlein Edited January 25, 2014 by lynnboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Garrity to put on 2 points. Reserves will NOT have new averages so even if Garrity wins all the reseves races and picks up thirs in his other two by yet again beating a draft rider only, he will score 3 1 1 3 each meeting but his average will only alter depending on his PL average in 2014. 5.64 RICHIE WORRALL; Will find it hard to average more than the top three, so should be a second string all season. With 5 points from his two easier races and a few points elsewhere, he could be around the 7 point mark. 6.82 CHRIS HARRIS; Bomber is like Skornicki. When he is riding for the proper team, he raises his game and even though there are going to be some tough races ahead, he could easily add a point to his average. Fisher as a second string will start well but will move above Hansen. 5.00 MIKKEL MICHELSEN; Class act and as a second string he will soon be in the points and challenge for a heat leader place which will mean adding at least a point to his average. 3.51 NIKLAS PORSING; He could be a bargain as he should get at least 3 from his races with the reserves and he will improve as the season goes on. Will not get anywhere near a heat leder role so as a second string all season he should be capable of adding a point to his average. Don't kow enough about Lambert to comment but speculation is he will be about the same. 5.05 MIKKEL BECH; Along with MJJ and Eminem they are the future of Danish Speedway and he could easily add two points to his average which would push Lewis Bridger (or Davey Watt) down to a second string role. 5.61 PETER LJUNG; Very under estimated rider and certainly capable of getting above 7 and may even challege for the #1 race jacket at Leicester. 4.00 VACLAV MILIK; Exciting rider and on a bargain average. Would expect him to easily average 5+ and another that will be a second string all season. Good signing by Poole 5.17 SIMON GUSTAFSSON; He needed a change and Swindon will do him well and we may get to see his true potential finaly coming out. This is one rider I really wanted to see Wolves get hold of and this year I think he will show everyone that I was right and average over 6 a match. Want to say the same about Nicolai but even t 4.24 he is a bit of a gamble. 4.61 JACOB THORSSELL; Wolves have over the time seen Peter Karlsson, Mikael Max and Fredrik Lindgren come over from Sweden and reach World Finals and be #1 riders at Monmore Green. Jacob is the latest in that line and he is learning fast and likethe forementioned three, he is a pretty quiet lad and looks after himself off the track. May only add a point to his average but if he does that each season like the others did, he will soon be ranked alongside them. Sadly I think Ty Proctor may not be the big improver mainly due to him starting as the third heat leader. Therefore no races against reserves and no heat 8's so every heat will be tough and if he can maintain a near six average he will do well While I have mentioned mainly second string riders above, I do feel that Tai Woffinden will be out to prove a point and with bonus points, I fully think he could be an 11+ rider in 2014 and will be chased hard by Iversen and Ward. Also think Kildemand will be the top Dane (part from Iversen) in 2014 and go 9+ Edited January 25, 2014 by T.N.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Rory Schlein Very true. When you compare him to other third heat leaders (Proctor, Hansen, Bridger, Morris), he look exceptional value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) NOTE; Heat leaders will no longer have races against or with reserves so every race id going to be tough for them. Take Poole v Kings Lynn for example. There is ever chance that Rory Schlein could be in four racs like ... Ward / Milik v Schelin / Lambert Pawlicki / Gracjzonek v Schlein / Porsing Pawlicki / Janowski v Bjerre / Schlein Ward / Janowski v Iversen / Schlein If he can get more than 5 points from those races he has done well which is why I havent included any third heat leaders as the riders likely to improve. Edited January 25, 2014 by T.N.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 NOTE; Heat leaders will no longer have races against or with reserves so every race id going to be tough for them. Take Poole v Kings Lynn for example. There is ever chance that Rory Schlein could be in four racs like ... Ward / Milik v Schelin / Lambert Pawlicki / Gracjzonek v Schlein / Porsing Pawlicki / Janowski v Bjerre / Schlein Ward / Janowski v Iversen / Schlein If he can get more than 5 points from those races he has done well which is why I havent included any third heat leaders as the riders likely to improve. You obviously, have knowledge of the new heat format. Wouldn't it have been nice of the BSPA to enlighten all the speedway supporter and the media, rather than treat us like mushrooms. And you wonder why the sport is nearly dead............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) NOTE; Heat leaders will no longer have races against or with reserves so every race id going to be tough for them. Take Poole v Kings Lynn for example. There is ever chance that Rory Schlein could be in four racs like ... Ward / Milik v Schelin / Lambert Pawlicki / Gracjzonek v Schlein / Porsing Pawlicki / Janowski v Bjerre / Schlein Ward / Janowski v Iversen / Schlein If he can get more than 5 points from those races he has done well which is why I havent included any third heat leaders as the riders likely to improve. Those match ups look promising from a poole perspective Edited January 25, 2014 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Those match ups look promising from a poole perspective If they want to "protect" the juniors, then top heavy teams will have a much greater advantage in the new heat formats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I believe Josh G. Will be one of the biggest improvers. He was on fire towards the end of last season and he continued this form into the playoffs. Did very well in the Aussie Championships and has geared himself up for 2014 to make a real impression. I expect him to add over a point to his starting average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 The Fantasy Speedway League is going to be a bit of a shambles - be sensible not to bother this season. Wait until next seasons one league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 You obviously, have knowledge of the new heat format. Wouldn't it have been nice of the BSPA to enlighten all the speedway supporter and the media, rather than treat us like mushrooms. And you wonder why the sport is nearly dead............. It's quite easy to work out roughly what the format will be and TNT to his credit has posted a few decent examples. If the reserves are only racing against each other and second strings, then the top three riders of each team will be forced to ride against each other multiple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 NOTE; Heat leaders will no longer have races against or with reserves so every race id going to be tough for them. Take Poole v Kings Lynn for example. There is ever chance that Rory Schlein could be in four racs like ... Ward / Milik v Schelin / Lambert Pawlicki / Gracjzonek v Schlein / Porsing Pawlicki / Janowski v Bjerre / Schlein Ward / Janowski v Iversen / Schlein If he can get more than 5 points from those races he has done well which is why I havent included any third heat leaders as the riders likely to improve. Do you know which of the 3 format options has been selected? I know its still 15 heats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I believe Josh G. Will be one of the biggest improvers. He was on fire towards the end of last season and he continued this form into the playoffs. Did very well in the Aussie Championships and has geared himself up for 2014 to make a real impression. I expect him to add over a point to his starting average. he should easily add a point riding in the second string position anything else will be failure. Josh isnt the isue with Poole its wether Magic can step up to his true form and how Milik goes. Magic needs to be outscoring riders like Schlien and Cook who in elite league racing are the same standard NOTE; Heat leaders will no longer have races against or with reserves so every race id going to be tough for them. Take Poole v Kings Lynn for example. There is ever chance that Rory Schlein could be in four racs like ... Ward / Milik v Schelin / Lambert Pawlicki / Gracjzonek v Schlein / Porsing Pawlicki / Janowski v Bjerre / Schlein Ward / Janowski v Iversen / Schlein If he can get more than 5 points from those races he has done well which is why I havent included any third heat leaders as the riders likely to improve. Those match ups show how evenly matched the 2 teams are at the top end. I would make Poole favourites in the top match up and maybe the second but the other 2 look fairly even. One question is why is Iversen only in 1 of these and Schlein in 3? Pooles top 3 are in 2 races each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 It's quite easy to work out roughly what the format will be and TNT to his credit has posted a few decent examples. If the reserves are only racing against each other and second strings, then the top three riders of each team will be forced to ride against each other multiple times. Exactly why I will not miss the EL this season. Much prefer to watch all race each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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