f-s-p Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) A company wants to promote speedway. Well there's a crime against humanity isn't it? Elsewhere on BSF there are numerous threads about the sport is under-promoted or in the hands of people who don't know how to promote or even how the sport is dying on its feet. Of course when the sport is dead and buried the fans won't blame themselves or each other for the demise, they'll be blaming the promoters won't they? These promoters who are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I'm not against promoting, but this competition is an unwanted/-needed addition. It's meant for the league champs of UK, SE, PL and DK. Poole didn't even want to take part in 2015. WSL is a 20 year old dream of a certain CCP member. Had it been brought to life then, it would either have been a HUGE success or died in 5 years. Now its too late and even with a contract I expect it to die. I believe that because it's a force fed date to a full calendar. Edited January 2, 2016 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 A company wants to promote speedway. Well there's a crime against humanity isn't it? Talk about drama queen Matt Ford went on about it for years and then when it came about and his team had actually qualified for the thing,he didn't want to know.That is what the promoter thought about the comp. It is just the same with the biggest sport in the world.You just can't make up competitions and be assured of crowds and tv interest.As I said the world club championship went ahead again in about the only country that wants to host it,with very little interest from around the world.The final didn't even get as much interest here as a normal Bundesliga game.Didn't even get as much interest here as a 2.Bundesliga game....... It is an interesting meeting,if the line-ups are good.But that is all it is.It isn't going to start any big interest for the sport in a 'new' country and like our Finnish expert say's it is hardly going to be a long term deal.We have had the sport in Middle Eastern countries before.Let's hope we can actually see the meeting,it is good and the riders make money out of it.But important,it isn't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Let's be clear about this Arabic/ Middle Eastern connection, it's only a supposition of one person on this thread. FIM EUROPE are still the governing body behind this venture so the chances of this going outside Europe are nil IMHO. What I would like to see though is an effort to be made to open up a new territory like motorcycle-mad Spain. A meeting in Spain in the Spring is a very feasible proposition if the ambition and resources are there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) I'd agree that Spain might be a good 'new' venture,although we will have the usual suspects maybe telling us that Spain has been tried and failed a number of times.Just like the last venture a few years back,Forget the guys name(ex Arena Essex rider,i think) who had all his gear pinched and was robbed at gun point.... The trouble though with this is we have a seemingly unwanted meeting that has to be run by a new promoter to the sport.After BSI we had Onesport and all the internal problems a new company brought.Now we are bringing in another new company.It is getting to be a bit like boxing with different bodies all wanting their own titles..... Russell Payne was the guy,i seem to remember now I wouldn't be sure that FIM Europe can only promote meetings in Europe(and I thought Armando was behind this,so meaning FIM themselves) .We have had controversial talk here that Hamburg might have a Bundesliga match in Asia.......the local fans(season ticket holders etc)not being happy that Hamburg v Dortmund or Bayern might be played out in another continent,although Hamburg are saying it would be a relatively unimportant game like Augsburg......hmmmm Edited January 3, 2016 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Let's be clear about this Arabic/ Middle Eastern connection, it's only a supposition of one person on this thread. FIM EUROPE are still the governing body behind this venture so the chances of this going outside Europe are nil IMHO. What I would like to see though is an effort to be made to open up a new territory like motorcycle-mad Spain. A meeting in Spain in the Spring is a very feasible proposition if the ambition and resources are there. WSL is a world championship event sanctioned by FIM, not FIM Europe. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 The FIM (Armando Castagna especially) have certainly been very keen for this WSL to become an established annual event. Poole competed for it once (one round only in Poland) and came 2nd or 3rd I think? but chose not to compete the following year when a 4-round WSL (one round in each country) was initially being suggested. Poole's decision was based purely on the costs of hosting the UK round with a limited capacity and without a major sponsor to cover some huge costs (including an FIM financial guarantee!!). Maybe with a new promoter and new sponsors(?) plus TV coverage, much of the costs can be underwritten?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) Let's be clear about this Arabic/ Middle Eastern connection, it's only a supposition of one person on this thread. FIM EUROPE are still the governing body behind this venture so the chances of this going outside Europe are nil IMHO. There have been rumblings about doing a GP in the UAE in the past, and I think an ice speedway meeting (the mickey mouse imitation of ice racing) was held in Dubai some years ago. Can't really see the point of staging a meeting in a country with no tradition or interest in the sport though. What I would like to see though is an effort to be made to open up a new territory like motorcycle-mad Spain. A meeting in Spain in the Spring is a very feasible proposition if the ambition and resources are there. Speedway needs to consolidate on its few remaining markets before going and promoting mickey mouse competitions in new places. And 'Champions League' competitions will always be mickey mouse whilst riders compete for multiple teams that may potentially all qualify for the competition. Even cricket woke up to this fact and scrapped the ridiculous T20 Champions League which was largely shunned by the fans for the farce it was. Spain may, and I stress may, potentially be a possibility for a GP. However, the economic crisis means there's probably less likelihood of a local authority sponsoring the hosting which would likely be necessary to make such a venture pay. Edited January 3, 2016 by Humphrey Appleby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Well, the current World Champion is excited that next year's WSL will be held in the Middle East: https://twitter.com/TWoffinden/status/711913737633046528 (Let's hope the contractors lay a decent race track.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 He's just gotta hope that he's in one of the teams that qualify are invited for it?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) For some reason I checked out some flights yesterday to go and see this. Too expensive ATM but tempted to make a comeback to Wolfslake after 12 years. Also kind of anxious and hopeful to see it NOT fail. Edited March 25, 2016 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Danish line-up named Skład Munkebo Scorpions na World Speedway League: Hans Andersen Kenneth Bjerre Anders Thomsen Kenni Larsen Martin Smolinski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Elit Vetlanda named Tai Woffinden Bartosz Zmarzlik Tomas H.Jonasson Artiom Laguta Janusz Kolodziej At least the Danes have 4 Danish riders in their team Edited April 11, 2016 by iris123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Is Smoli a ringer for the Danes ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Is Smoli a ringer for the Danes ?? Three matches for Grindsted in 2013 is his only Danish activity in the last seven years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Three matches for Grindsted in 2013 is his only Danish activity in the last seven years. I think that is a yes then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Leszno named Grzegorz ZengotaPiotr PawlickiNicki PedersenPeter KildemandTobiasz Musielak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 when is this taking place? is it on tv? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) when is this taking place? is it on tv? it's next week on Saturday in Berlin. Edited April 12, 2016 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 A week Saturday April 23rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Feel for the Aces, they're just gonna get blasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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