DutchGrasstrack Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 it's next week on Saturday in Berlin Wolfslake. Belle Vue lineup Scott Nicholls Max Fricke Craig Cook Steven Worral Matej Zagar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) Belle Vue lineup Scott Nicholls Max Fricke Craig Cook Steven Worral Matej Zagar That line-up looks as good as their track atm On the other hand it can only pull a surprise as everyone will be expecting them to come last...... positive note is they at least have 3 English riders Edited April 12, 2016 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) I thought BV might have been allowed to strengthen up a little in order to compete more strongly rather than just go with no chance of winning - (not sure what rider assets BV have!!? Thats why Poole declined initially. Edited April 13, 2016 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 I thought BV might have been allowed to strengthen up a little in order to compete more strongly rather than just go with no chance of winning - (not sure what rider assets BV have!!? Thats why Poole declined initially. More to the point, Ford found he couldn't make money from it. Joke competition, created only so the Polish teams have a strong chance of declaring themselves World Champions to please their sponsors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) I thought BV might have been allowed to strengthen up a little in order to compete more strongly rather than just go with no chance of winning - (not sure what rider assets BV have!!? Thats why Poole declined initially. Well that is the issue with SCL. Team strengths are too different and if (the weaker) teams are allowed to "strengthen up" well then the whole point, of which is the best teams, is lost. More to the point, Ford found he couldn't make money from it. Joke competition, created only so the Polish teams have a strong chance of declaring themselves World Champions to please their sponsors. IIRC the Speedway champions league is a British idea so don't blame the Poles for this one. According to this post by Skidder1, the Poles actually seemed to be against the idea at first: http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=75598&page=1&do=findComment&comment=2398374 Edited April 13, 2016 by Ghostwalker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) It is/was a FIM initiative - as my 2014 post stated. Castagna's longer term aim was for each participating club to host one round of the tournament. That was where the issue of money came into it, with riders insisting on getting the same rates as they got in Poland plus the FIM getting a 'staging fee' as well. That's what led to Poole's initial withdrawal as they would not be able to make a 'home leg' pay without an unrealistic admission fee and a restricted attendance capacity. Now the competition has a progressive sponsor - British-based but Polish staffed - so we'll see how it all pans out. Edited April 13, 2016 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Looks like Buster Chapman (BSPA Chairman & King's Lynn owner) is getting involved in Dubai Translation is pretty horrendous so apologies for that https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=pl&u=http://www.przegladsportowy.pl/znamy-nazwiska-budowniczych-toru-na-bliskim-wschodzie,artykul,663540,1,12427.html&prev=search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Having now seen the full draw for with all teams & riders side by side, Belle Vue have a good chance of finishing 3rd imo. The Danish outfit looks just as weak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Having now seen the full draw for with all teams & riders side by side, Belle Vue have a good chance of finishing 3rd imo. The Danish outfit looks just as weak I disagree slightly. IMO Munkebo is (on paper) sligthly stronger then Belle Vue. Bjerre, Andersen and especially Larsen are quite good riders. Smolinski is not that good but probably have some pretty descent experience with the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I disagree slightly. IMO Munkebo is (on paper) sligthly stronger then Belle Vue. Bjerre, Andersen and especially Larsen are quite good riders. Smolinski is not that good but probably have some pretty descent experience with the track. I did say could but there isn't an awful lot between the 2 Vetlanda - Leszno will certainly be 1-2, just going with Leszno as favourites for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I did say could but there isn't an awful lot between the 2 Vetlanda - Leszno will certainly be 1-2, just going with Leszno as favourites for me. Agree with you Danny, as I'd give Belle Vue a chance of finishing 3rd. The other two teams look ridiculously strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Why is Smolinski allowed to ride for Munkebo, a team he never rode for and has no affiliation with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Why is Smolinski allowed to ride for Munkebo, a team he never rode for and has no affiliation with? Why are Belle Vue allowed to ride when they are not even champions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I agree Aces in with a good chance of third place. I wish there was TV coverage, presumably because it is a one off event, it is not included in any other contract, so any TV company would be free to run with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) I agree Aces in with a good chance of third place. I wish there was TV coverage, presumably because it is a one off event, it is not included in any other contract, so any TV company would be free to run with it? It is being run by another company who have to market it.Think it was stated they tried without any luck to get tv interested.Guess they didn't have too much time and maybe next year will be different? It is also the question of is it easier or harder to get a tv deal with a one-off meeting rather than being able to offer a series of meetings that will fill space?Tv companies probably like being able to do deals for more rather than 1 meeting.They then have to do loads of deals with loads of people to fill the time with lots of one-offs Edited April 17, 2016 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Let's hope so. Next year's WSL final is in Dubai or Qatar and that should be live on tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Let's hope so. Next year's WSL final is in Dubai or Qatar and that should be live on tv. I would not be so susprised if this won't go ahead, but we'll see. I think it's all a bit too optimistic from our Polish friends. By the way: I will provide live updates from Wolfslake on the following link: http://live.baansportfansite.nl/event/145/world-speedway-league-wolfslake.html 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 It is being run by another company who have to market it.Think it was stated they tried without any luck to get tv interested.Guess they didn't have too much time and maybe next year will be different? It's not a very interesting competition though, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 It's not a very interesting competition though, is it? Not at all.As a title/competition I think it is well down the pecking order.Never been a fan and have said so many times on here.As a meeting it could though provide some great racing looking at the line-up.Just trying to answer a question put on here.Maybe,and it is a big maybe they could sell it to a tv company.I gave them the benefit of the doubt that they signed a contract with not too much time to get this on tv.Next year they have more time and no excuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Can someone confirm the address of Wolfslake track please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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