PolskiZuzel Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Apparently there are chances that as soon as this forthcoming season the long awaited and much discussed Speedway Champions League will get off the ground. According to revelations on the Polish website, sportowefakty.pl, new competition under the name of FIM speedway World League is about to be launched this year and there are a good chances that this project will come into being in the forthcoming speedway season 2014. I wonder how much truth is in this message. Another thing worth a note is that this time it is the FIM that is interested in this project. How they will sort out who rides for whom is another matter. So far this turned out to be something that no one was able to resolve. Still, I will wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 If they could sort out the team strengths, who rides for whom, this would be a huge money spinner for the clubs involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 would be embarrassing going intosuper lge with national lge reseves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 would be embarrassing going intosuper lge with national lge reseves May be there will be cocessions. After all the league would have riders involved with several clubs. I suppose if there's a match involving a rider liked two both teams the home club would have priority? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 sportowefakty.pl are hot on this subject and have already started to speculate at possible line-ups. SPAR Falubaz ZIELONA GORA Patryk DudekJaroslaw HampelAndreas JonssonPiotr ProtasiewiczAleksandr Loktayev (reserve) Piraterna MOTALA: Greg HancockChris HolderBjarne PedersenRory SchleinLinus Sundstroem (reserve) POOLE Pirates: Josh Grajczonek Maciej Janowski Vaclav Milik Darcy Ward Kyle Newman (reserve) Esbjerg Motorsport: Rene BachNiels Kristian IversenMikkel Bech JensenArtiom LagutaZbigniew Suchecki (reserve) There is a problem with three riders. Patryk Dudek and Mikkela Bech Jensen both ride for Zielona gora and Esbjerg. sportowefakty.pl decided that in such a case riders should ride for their home league team. There was also a case of Darcy Ward, who rides Pirates in Poole and Motala. sportowefakty.pl placed Darcy in the British champions team because without him they would be outclassed. Matt Ford has to compete his line up and there is a chance that additional rider might be of some stature. sportowefakty.pl also are saying that back in 1996 Wroclaw have staged an event in which four league champions competed. the host, Atlas Wroclaw, Rospigarna Hallstavik, the Swedish champion, Eastbourne Eagles, the champions of the Elite League in Britain and the German champions msc Diedenberg. originally the Danes were invited but for some reason decided not to come to Wroclaw. instead the Germans were asked to replaced them. and it was the German team who won to everone surprise. The teams scorer were. for Diedenverg; Brian Karger (13), Gerd Riss (11), Chris Louis (7), Robert Kessler (4), Robert Kral (0) second came the hosts-Sparta Wroclaw (Ermolenko 10, Baron 9, Śledź 9, Załuski 6, , Zieliński dnr), third were Rospiggarna (Gustafsson 14, Nilsen 12 , Stenlund 3, Kyllingstad 4, Teurnberg 0), and fourth came Eastbourne (Kasper 6, Dannoe 6 Dugard 3, Andersson 3 Norris 0). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 very tricky, in all honesty theres too many riders in too many teams...if we had a fa cup style comp just in Britain, it couldn't work, rider sharing is gonna cause long term problems I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 One of the obvious problems is all the other teams have to strengthen up to compete with Zielona and by quite a bit.Now that isn't going to come cheap and can a team like Esbjerg really afford it?Can they attract the crowds to make it worth while?Or on the other hand will ZG fans bother in great numbers to see weak "foreign" teams.Still lots to be solved and see if this will work more than one or two years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 quite agree...tis system may of worked in the 70s, but cant see this ever working now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) One of the obvious problems is all the other teams have to strengthen up to compete with Zielona and by quite a bit.Now that isn't going to come cheap and can a team like Esbjerg really afford it?Can they attract the crowds to make it worth while?Or on the other hand will ZG fans bother in great numbers to see weak "foreign" teams.Still lots to be solved and see if this will work more than one or two yearsIf teams have to strengthen / de strengthen then it becomes a farce,nothing more than an invitational event.Imagine if all teams in football's champions league were allowed guests to strengthen up to the likes of Bayern or Barca. Edited January 20, 2014 by New Science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 its a no go, it will never have the integrity of a proper event Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pedaler Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Just because British and Danish teams are pitifully weak doesn't mean that they aren't entitled to compete, er, or at least to take part. Not that many years ago, "The New Saints FC" (Welsh football champions) took part in football's Champions League, and could have faced Barcelona or Real Madrid. In the end they faced Liverpool, but that's the luck of the draw for you. Similar gulf in class but they were allowed to play. If nothing else, it would be a welcome sight to see Poole's colours lowered by a properly "Elite" team. Might knock some sense into the BSPA to see how lowly British speedway has become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 quite agree...tis system may of worked in the 70s, but cant see this ever working now How would it have worked in the 70s? What club sides would have competed with the top british side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 its a no go, it will never have the integrity of a proper event You mean like the Integrity of last years SWC, Polish Play Offs or the Brit EL final? The words Integrity and Speedway are distant cousins mate. It's a Speedway Meeting that could be televised and make a few quid for the sport and even get a few viewers interested. Hope they work it out and go for it. Who gives a rats arce if it has Integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) FIM Speedway 'Commissioner' Armando Castagna, stated over a year ago that a European (World?) League was one of his priorities!! Initially the Poles were the main ones seemingly against it, but based upon the latest news it sounds like they are back on board - just as the British Elite League gets a full programme of fixtures, with fewer spare dates! In the situation of riders racing in more than one country, the question of which team is given precedence was to be solved by a priority of 1) Rider Nationality; 2) whichever club the rider has been riding for/contracted to/an asset of. the longest. So for example, a club such as Poole would have first call on riders such as Holder and Ward. Edited January 21, 2014 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 .tis system may of worked in the 70s, but cant see this ever working now Explain to me, please, why Speedway Champions League might have worked in the 70s, and not now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Just because British and Danish teams are pitifully weak doesn't mean that they aren't entitled to compete, er, or at least to take part. Not that many years ago, "The New Saints FC" (Welsh football champions) took part in football's Champions League, and could have faced Barcelona or Real Madrid. In the end they faced Liverpool, but that's the luck of the draw for you. Similar gulf in class but they were allowed to play. Who is saying anything about British or Danish clubs not being entitled to compete????? You are comparing chalk and somthing hard + white that isn't chalk.Of course a lot of minnows enter the Champions League and most get knocked out in the preliminaries,but the nitty gritty of the Champions League isn't some small Welsh club against Barcelona.That is just a quirky news item.The Champions League wouldn't be able to sell itself if that was it.It sells itself on Barcelona v Bayern or Dortmund v Arsenal etc.That is how it attracts tv coverage,sponsors and fans.This however it as far as the speedway Champions League goes and has to sell itself to fans,sponsors and tv on Zielona Gora v Esbjerg etc.If the balance of teams isn't right it will be hard to get anyone interested 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 the reason I think it could of worked in 70s was because, the crazy doubling up/riding in 3 countries didn't exist.. a rider was a 1 team rider, sides had a proper team feel to it....today, a rider could be up against his own team, to me, that wouldn't make it a proper competition..imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 The FIM were the ones behind it the first time as well. Even though the CCP has had a drastic makeover, rest of the speedway world really hasnt and thereby the same problems excists and this will be a no go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted January 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 the reason I think it could of worked in 70s was because, the crazy doubling up/riding in 3 countries didn't exist.. a rider was a 1 team rider, sides had a proper team feel to it....today, a rider could be up against his own team, to me, that wouldn't make it a proper competition..imo I take your point...and thanks for replying. My view is that even today, when "things are not what they used to be" there is still a chance of working out who should ride for whom. As it was explained in my second post. I always believe that "if there is a will, there is a way". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I AM hearing that the proposal was for a one-off meeting featuring the Champions from Denmark, GB, Poland and Sweden at Poole but now seems unlikely to take place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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