Woz01 Posted January 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Attracting other 'top' riders might be a problem though? Plenty of riders for both events im sure. If he can attract Vaculik he can attract others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) Expect a change of date for Havvy I suspect as some of his planned riders will definitely be in the ERC!! Â Â Edited: Actually, after consideration and seeing the groundswell of fan and rider support for Havvy on Twitter and Facebook, I hope the meeting goes ahead as planned. Â I will certainly be there. And as someone on the Poole forum has said, It will be very interesting to see which riders get the invitations and possibly who has the biggest 'cohunas'??!! Â If bans are threatened, will Sky really want to start their EL coverage with any of the top stars missing??! Edited January 31, 2014 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Expect a change of date for Havvy I suspect as some of his planned riders will definitely be in the ERC!! I hope they are on seperate days but it really doesnt need to be an issue, both events will attract good crowds with good line ups for both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I hope they are on seperate days but it really doesnt need to be an issue, both events will attract good crowds with good line ups for both. With Darcy and Holder set to stand by their pre booked Havvy Testimonial meeting. Is this meeting on SKY? Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Darcy Ward tweeted that the ERC is open to non EL riders, even for reason to think both meeings can happen on the same day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pedaler Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 The ERC should be boycotted by riders and fans alike for the cynical way that it's been rescheduled to sabotage Havvy's Farewell event. About time that the SkySports/BSPA alliance were taught a lesson. Last year the Belle Vue v Poole fiasco, this year shafting Havvy. It's not on, and about time people took a stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 The ERC should be boycotted by riders and fans alike for the cynical way that it's been rescheduled to sabotage Havvy's Farewell event. About time that the SkySports/BSPA alliance were taught a lesson. Last year the Belle Vue v Poole fiasco, this year shafting Havvy. It's not on, and about time people took a stand. Are you serious? Sabotage? Stop being over dramatic. Havvy will get the crowd and a good line up so will the ERC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 The ERC should be boycotted by riders and fans alike for the cynical way that it's been rescheduled to sabotage Havvy's Farewell event. About time that the SkySports/BSPA alliance were taught a lesson. Last year the Belle Vue v Poole fiasco, this year shafting Havvy. It's not on, and about time people took a stand. Bit OTT I'm sure there are alot of people who were not going to go to Havelocks farewell anyway. There are enough speedway fans for both meetings. How often do meetings and testimonials take place on the same day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pedaler Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Are you serious? Sabotage? Stop being over dramatic. Havvy will get the crowd and a good line up so will the ERC. Â I'm sure that there will be those in high places that would have arrogantly expected Havvy to have cancelled his Farewell in order to carry out his management responsibilities as Coventry manager, at Coventry geeing up the Coventry riders there. Just wait until the pressure comes from above for the Farewell meeting to be cancelled in view of a "BSPA Shared Event" happening on that date. Â And what about the FANS? Those who would have liked to have gone to both? SHAFTED! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 It's all about the availability of the riders, obviously, I don't suppose any fans who were going to Havvy's meeting will now go to the ERC???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 The ERC should be boycotted by riders and fans alike for the cynical way that it's been rescheduled to sabotage Havvy's Farewell event. About time that the SkySports/BSPA alliance were taught a lesson. Last year the Belle Vue v Poole fiasco, this year shafting Havvy. It's not on, and about time people took a stand. Â Rubbish. Having the ELR Champ on Tv is more important for the profile of the sport. Havvy can change his date, no problem with that is there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Â Rubbish. Having the ELR Champ on Tv is more important for the profile of the sport. Havvy can change his date, no problem with that is there. Yes there are a lot of problems with that!!! Flights and hotels are already booked - and some already paid for - Sponsorship is in place, based upon certain riders - and special guests - having signed up!! Â Still at least from the new BSPA statement there seems a willingness to sort something out!! I wonder what the new date of the ERC will be???? Edited January 31, 2014 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pedaler Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Yes there are a lot of problems with that!!! Flights and hotels are already booked - and some already paid for - Sponsorship is in place, based upon certain riders - and special guests - having signed up!! Â Still at least from the new BSPA statement there seems a willingness to sort something out!! I wonder what the new date of the ERC will be???? Â You mean the bit that was couched in diplomatic speak for "we are going to force Havvy into postponing his event because we are the BSPA, we run the sport and what we say goes." ??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Rubbish. Having the ELR Champ on Tv is more important for the profile of the sport. Havvy can change his date, no problem with that is there.Spot on. Havvy got unlucky with the date he picked. The BSPA are going to help sort him out an alternative, and the world will keep turning.  Storm in a teacup. It's a bit like the local kids arranging a football game after school on Monday and then throwing a tantrum because Man City v Chelsea has been moved back to Monday night for Sky. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Yes there are a lot of problems with that!!! Flights and hotels are already booked - and some already paid for - Sponsorship is in place, based upon certain riders - and special guests - having signed up!! Â Still at least from the new BSPA statement there seems a willingness to sort something out!! I wonder what the new date of the ERC will be???? Â Meetings get cancelled all the time and rearranged at much shorter notice. With it being pre season and pre GP season as well its likely a lot of riders will be glad to do both. Â Nay bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 It is a pity that it could not stay on the Sunday as surely more people would go on a Sunday rather than a friday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 It is a pity that it could not stay on the Sunday as surely more people would go on a Sunday rather than a friday night. Â It's been changed to Friday night so that they don't have to go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Templeton Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Love him, or hate him, I feel Havvy has had a raw deal. I understand that his meeting date was announced last March. That's not far off a year ago. He has acceptances for that date. For the powers that be that declare their meeting will happen on the same day, just weeks away, is outrageous, and without respect. Â Of course, these "powers that be" can legitimately do what they have done. But what would be nice is that those riders affected by agreeing to ride in Havvy's meeting, and are also required to be in the ERC, would to be to say "no" to the latter, as they are already contracted (possibly only by verbal agreement) elsewhere. Any agreement, verbal or otherwise, is a contract respected by every Court in the land. Â I rest my case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Love him, or hate him, I feel Havvy has had a raw deal. I understand that his meeting date was announced last March. That's not far off a year ago. He has acceptances for that date. For the powers that be that declare their meeting will happen on the same day, just weeks away, is outrageous, and without respect. Â Of course, these "powers that be" can legitimately do what they have done. But what would be nice is that those riders affected by agreeing to ride in Havvy's meeting, and are also required to be in the ERC, would to be to say "no" to the latter, as they are already contracted (possibly only by verbal agreement) elsewhere. Any agreement, verbal or otherwise, is a contract respected by every Court in the land. Â I rest my case. On Twitter, Chris Holder says he intends to honour his agreement to ride in Havvy's meeting, Darcy seems to be indicating that he does too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) To me, allowing guests to be invited to compete for the ERC is afar greater issue then the actual meeting clashing with the Havvy's Testimonial . I'm sure there will be plenty of top riders wanting track time before jetting off to NZ, to make the testimonial worth while. Â Whereas, try explaining to the unwanted riders from the Elite league that their services are not required, because their place is going to someone who is not even riding in our league. Imagine the trophy going to say Nicki Pedersen, and he hasn't ridden here for years.... Â We want to inspire riders to come here, Not take the rise out of those that do................ Edited February 1, 2014 by GRW123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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