BWitcher Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 The stadium's statement implies that it was acknowledged quite some time ago, that the track was unsatisfactory and was in need of substantial remedial work. So why was that work not carried out at an earlier stage over the winter rather than being done at the last minute? And, if the track has been in need of that work (and still was in need of it), why did the BSPA allocate the ELRC meeting to Brandon? It sounds to me as if all parties have contributed to this situation, and it may even be that Horton has been trying to get the stadium owners to carry out the work over the winter and has basically now done a childish "see, i told you so" when things went badly wrong. Not that it would excuse his apparent course of non-action. The statement clearly states that work had been taking place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I feel for the bees riders at this moment. it's the life long bees supporters I feel sorry for...... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I still cant understand why Horton didnt visit the track on Saturday at all --matters not the stadium guy called him to visit----,a rain off due to f ecked track on Friday and day before he was hosting a major event,he should have at the very least had a look in on Saturday just make make sure all was well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Boy Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 You have to laugh when someone passes themself off as an expert when they clearly have no idea of what a shared event is. It is a BSPA event and was awarded to Coventry by them. They share the profit, they share the cost. Ultimately the buck stops with them no matter who has fouled-up further down the chain, whether it be a hapless promotion or malevolent stadium owner. It's clear that giving a shared event to Coventry in its present state is as foolish as giving Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross a radio phone-in. I know full well what a shared event is. I also know full well what a tin pot outfit the Elite league is. Full of experts..... two fingers...... cough. The shared events have been getting better year on year; so what has changed this year? Who was actually the responsible person for planning and running this event; if you can answer that great if you can't blaming the BSPA is just a convenience that I suggest suits many in the sport. This is a Coventry issue that has embarrassed everyone who has anything to do with the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Just been through the last umpteen pages, let's look on the bright side. After years of BSPA events where the fans have come on here and said "never again", it does appear that not too many actually bothered to turn up. In the past lots of fans have been on here saying what a waste of money, riders pulling out, crap tracks, dreadful organisation (P'boro for last years 4TT springs to mind), I might be wrong ( I hope I'm not) but it does appear that a lot of fans said, "sod it I'll watch it on the telly". Lets just hope for Cov fans, this whole mess can be sorted out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) 'It's your fault' 'No it's your fault' 'It's your fault times two' 'It's your fault times a hundred' 'Ner.ner.ner,ner,ner. It seems people's fears about Horton have come to fruition. Even giving the bloke the benefit of the doubt, one can't help thinking that wherever he goes, aggravation isn't far behind. The BSPA enquiry will most likely blame anyone but Mick Horton. They aren't likely to dump on one of their own are they? Edited March 24, 2014 by Wolfsbane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I can't understand why the BSPA can't put together a task force of track curators to ensure that every shared event and TV meeting is raced on a top class surface unless there is an almighty downpour on the day. There are enough very good track men around to make this happen. Showing riders walking round the track with no puddles on a sunny day live on national telly and then saying the track is unsafe is ridiculous and embarrassing for speedway, makes it look amateurish and disorganised. Again. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 So whoever makes the next 'official' statement is the one we are all expected to believe?! Mick Horton makes a statement and many (not all) have sympathy with him. Sandhu's man then issues a Stadium statement and 'everybody' suddenly sides with that overview of events!! This is just the expected 'sabre-rattling' over a situation where there is clearly some blame on all sides!! The main question for me is with 3 weeks of the new track man already passed and with no apparent improvements to the speedway track, how much longer is the expert track man going to need to get a raceable track before MH will allow his teams to ride again?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I know full well what a shared event is. I also know full well what a tin pot outfit the Elite league is. Full of experts..... two fingers...... cough. The shared events have been getting better year on year; so what has changed this year? Who was actually the responsible person for planning and running this event; if you can answer that great if you can't blaming the BSPA is just a convenience that I suggest suits many in the sport. This is a Coventry issue that has embarrassed everyone who has anything to do with the sport. You claim you know full well what a shared event is, then say its wrong to blame the BSPA. It is the BSPA's responsiblity. End of. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 The full story will be in the Star surely?Interviews with all sides involved i would imagine? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I am not his biggest fan but Bob Dugard would be a great choice as head track curator for the BSPA events. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I am not his biggest fan but Bob Dugard would be a great choice as head track curator for the BSPA events. Dugard, Buster, Trollope, Bridgett, Huggy, Ellis...... there are plenty of good ones out there with years of experience between them. Should be easy to avoid what happened yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. What I was trying to say that it seems that there is more going on behind the scenes than just the goings on this weekend. It stinks and it seems our concerns abut Mick Horton may have come home to roost Seems a little bit of your faith in Horton has been damaged by the Stadium Statement.It is sad for all the Bees fans that this situation has arisen it looks to me that Hortons got the speedway rights and just wants to turn up on the race day and collect the admission money.he should have been more concerned with the closed season on goings IMO .Hope thing take a turn for the better for all the Bees fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Speedball Posted March 24, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 In business, it's basic management to evaluate, minimise and mitigate risk but yet again speedway cannot get its act in order. Really simple common sense decisions could have prevented this whole mess: Don't run a meeting in poor conditions two days before a showcase event Have fresh dry shale available if the weather is poor Have someone on site to take ownership and have the necessary authority to make decisions Communicate with your customers. Let them know there is a track inspection planned (preferably with enough time to prevent wasted travel) Don't open the gates until you are sure the meeting can go ahead It literally is idiot proof stuff but yet again they can't manage it and the sport just stumbles from one disaster to the next. Each time something like this happens it ruins good will and kills off the love of the sport for die hard fans, never mind the casual fans who are desperately needed boost attendances. While the sport is run by clowns it will continue to be a circus. Now all we'll get is public finger pointing and blame and it's the Coventry fans who'll be caught in the middle and suffer. Every time a track closes, I reckon 90-95% of those fans are lost for good. If Lynn closed down, I wouldn't go to Peterborough or Ipswich regularly. Might take in the odd meeting if there was a Lynn connection, but other than that I wouldn't care either way. Can't see many Coventry fans heading to Leicester, Wolves or Peterborough for their fix. Really hope some reconciliation can be found between the Coventry promotion and the stadium owners because speedway needs all the teams it can get. What makes me so angry is most of this is avoidable with just basic business nous and common sense. 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Everyone in this situation has to share some of the blame, Horton for not being at the track at the agreed time to relay messages to the bspa over the track. The actual staff for not getting a track to a sufficient standard and not doing what riders and officials asked for on Sunday. Finally the bspa, I believe officials were there in the morning so why wait till 5.30 to postpone? Was it even close to going ahead? No one would have even batted an eyelid had they postponed it at lunchtime. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) Think we should lay the blame on Marek the Pole.Comes over and takes a job off a local lad and to top it off he can't even speak english!!!!There would be murder if he was working on a building site and .........is he a muslim by the way? The EU strikes again...just lucky he isn't Rumanian Edited March 24, 2014 by iris123 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I can't understand why the BSPA can't put together a task force of track curators to ensure that every shared event and TV meeting is raced on a top class surface unless there is an almighty downpour on the day. There are enough very good track men around to make this happen. Are you going to pay them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Are you going to pay them? No need.Why not lay all those bricks Matt Ford has bought for the Belle Vue stadium around the track to keep the rain off in future,until the day they are needed in Manchester? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Are you going to pay them? Ah, the good old Starman2006 'can't do' attitude strikes again 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 You claim you know full well what a shared event is, then say its wrong to blame the BSPA. It is the BSPA's responsiblity. End of. How so, the BSPA gave the meeting to Coventry, it is them and in particular the new track guy that are to blame. Alex Harkess was told on Saturday morning that the track would be ok, who told him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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