Daniel Smith Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Its a good resevre and a good top 2 that win things IMO because them 3 riders all get 5 rides. With the reserves being out of the equation I'd still like to see a strong top 2 and its why I think Lynn look good, they have two good reserves and a very good top 2. Poole have 2 very good reserves too but nobody knows who one of them is yet Matt 'The Magician' Fraud will have this sorted by May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Family finances dictate my reasons & guess when you become an adult you will have to make choices also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted January 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) With reserves NOT getting new averages, it will be interesting to see how team orders come into play when they are riding alongside a second string. Take the Belle Vue missing rider. For example purposes, lets call him JOE BLOGGS. He gets helped home by a reserve twice scoring 5 points from those two races and has only beaten a reserve twice so far. Add to that the odd point where he could gain through exclusions and this 3.00 rider could be averaging around 5 a match thanks to his partners team riding abilities. Once he gets a new muc inflated average, how long will it be before he is replaced by a true 5 point rider ? Edited January 19, 2014 by T.N.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 With reserves NOT getting new averages, it will be interesting to see how team orders come into play when they are riding alongside a second string. Take the Belle Vue missing rider. For example purposes, lets call him JOE BLOGGS. He gets helped home by Jason Garrity twice scoring 5 points from those two races and has only beaten a reserve twice so far. Add to that the odd point where he could gain through exclusions and this 3.00 rider could be averaging around 5 a match thanks to his partners team riding abilities. Once he gets a new muc inflated average, how long will it be before he is replaced by a true 5 point rider ? Why would Jason Garrity help him? He rides for Coventry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted January 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Post edited. Meant RESERVE but was thinking how Kyle Howath could be in the same boat as Jason Garrity could shield him home twice giving Howarth a 5-6 point average just by mainly beating a few reserves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Howarth will beat any of the reserve tbh, the only way his average will be effected is will he won't he beat Garrity. But as I posted on the BV thread, any PL 5 pointer should be capable of beating the two reserves in the race he meets them twice to average 4 in the EL. Then BV can bring in a 4 point rider. The 4 pointer can then beat the reserves for 4 points and get the better of the second string 2 or 3 times and he gets a 6 point average.... Its why I think Lynn have got it right with Lambert, he'll get 4 point beating NL riders, anything else is a bonus but it does then mean they saved points to have a good 2nd heatleader in Bjerre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Its a good resevre and a good top 2 that win things IMO because them 3 riders all get 5 rides. With the reserves being out of the equation I'd still like to see a strong top 2 and its why I think Lynn look good, they have two good reserves and a very good top 2.could nt agree more cov in 2010 kk Harris and shamek pawlicki got75% of covs points in the final,same which won poole title ward Hancock and josh at reserve,and this yr its hard with the reserves being quite week but garrity,newman,kerr are the better ones so automatically those teams are in with a shot and cov,poole,kl hav plenty of scoring power from there top 2 aswell assuming shamek signs for poole.Ward 9.07 woffinden 9.20 ljung 5.61 mikkelsen 5.00 lambert 3.00 Total 31.88 best team you would get imo plenty of top end power and lower potential all bottom 3 cud at 2pts to average Edited January 20, 2014 by PTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 could nt agree more cov in 2010 kk Harris and shamek pawlicki got75% of covs points in the final,same which won poole title ward Hancock and josh at reserve,and this yr its hard with the reserves being quite week but garrity,newman,kerr are the better ones so automatically those teams are in with a shot and cov,poole,kl hav plenty of scoring power from there top 2 aswell assuming shamek signs for poole. Ward 9.07 woffinden 9.20 ljung 5.61 mikkelsen 5.00 lambert 3.00 Total 31.88 best team you would get imo plenty of top end power and lower potential all bottom 3 cud at 2pts to average Like that team, would consider swapping woffy and mich for zagar and worrall.Think the optimum team has strong top two plus Lambert. Then either third heat leader and low average second string with potentisl, or two good second strings with potential yo be third heat leader stsndsrd. An all brit team was unfortunately 0.02 over otherwise Woffy, cook, harris, worrall, lambert looked decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Poole have 2 very good reserves too but nobody knows who one of them is yet Matt 'The Magician' Fraud will have this sorted by May There's a chance he might come from Scunthorpe????!!!! Whether I go or not will be down to how I feel about the sport & how it is run. Family finances dictate my reasons & guess when you become an adult you will have to make choices also. With your permission I'll keep this post and look at it again when I start collecting my state pension in May, when I and 2 others will continue to enjoy our paid-for weekly fix of live speedway! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Ward 9.07 Doyle 7.30 Milik 4.00 Michelsen 5.00 Bech 5.05 I'd go for an out and out no.1 and steady improving 2nd heat leader and then 3 riders all looking to make progress in the sport and likely to add points onto the average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 There's a chance he might come from Scunthorpe????!!!! With your permission I'll keep this post and look at it again when I start collecting my state pension in May, when I and 2 others will continue to enjoy our paid-for weekly fix of live speedway! You'll get SCB started in a minute!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 There's a chance he might come from Scunthorpe????!!!! With your permission I'll keep this post and look at it again when I start collecting my state pension in May, when I and 2 others will continue to enjoy our paid-for weekly fix of live speedway! I hope it is not the rider I have been following, a rider that Swindon should have signed. Happy birthday for May, did you get a discounted season ticket as you become one of group able to get a concession. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I hope it is not the rider I have been following, a rider that Swindon should have signed. Happy birthday for May, did you get a discounted season ticket as you become one of group able to get a concession. Ha ha. I don't get a season ticket as such - I get a season long pass as part of the sponsorship deal!! (and the sponsorship deal is NOT discounted!!!! } 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) There's a chance he might come from Scunthorpe????!!!! With your permission I'll keep this post and look at it again when I start collecting my state pension in May, when I and 2 others will continue to enjoy our paid-for weekly fix of live speedway! Your posts seem so younger:-) Edited January 20, 2014 by Crazy robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Your posts seem so younger:-) Easier for you to recognise, if not understand then!!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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