david2905 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Stupid question, the stats quite clearly say it's Woffy, Darcy may have the talent, but won't be champion until he grows up. Edited January 13, 2014 by david2905 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Hang on didn't someone on here think David Howe was going to be World Champion? There's always someone though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man in black Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) I agree with the vast majority you have written but PLEASE see beyond the tat's etc. Did Jason Crump's eyebrow piercing make him a bad person? It's 2014 not 1914 and surely he should be judged for how he performed on track and to a degree with his antics off track that include raising a pretty good amount for charity. Not only is he World Champion but our first since 2013 lets give him him all round support rather than highlight what some people seem to think is socially unacceptable but is revered as body art. Whoa.......steady on there Westhamboy! I may not like his tattoos, but where did I suggest Tai was a bad person or that his choice in body art was "socially unacceptable"? Indeed I thought I had judged him for his performance - to quote my own post "...he put in one hell of a lot of work off track, is unquestionably the most improved rider of 2013 and a deserving World Champ to boot.. " Edited January 13, 2014 by Man in black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidgy Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) The best rider in the world at present is the no 1 and that is Tai, others may be more exciting or had injuries that stopped there season from being better, but every one remembers the World Champ, the rest were who he beat. Next year ?????? Edited January 13, 2014 by tidgy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 didnt anyone WATCH the GPs or did i just dream that tia was crowned WORLD champion. in 2013... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 so, another thread has been started because fans dont believe tia was the beast rider in the world.. hence, he is world champion in 2013.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 There's always someone though... That's true, our local journo has K Bjerre down as 2014 world champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Lolly Badcock, what a rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Well my thread had bought a lot of discussion and surprise surprise its only Poole fans that don't think Tai was the best rider in the world last year. Can't believe Mr Shovlar hadn't commented as he was adamant it was only me and Stevebrum who felt this way! Come on Shovvy come on the thread and tell everyone else they are wrong as well. Or will you stay in hiding\ on holiday/ at work / computer not working any excuse. It is opinion but the facts say Darcy isn't at Tai's level and I would guess that 95% of the fans on here agree( we don't count children by the way argotron) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 It is interesting that others put other logic to make a reasoned response.However you address it Tai comes out highly if not top in virtually all equations.Which of course is a very simplistic response to the thread title. Steve brum - I cant figure out why you quoted me before posting this? The best rider in the world at present is the no 1 and that is Tai, others may be more exciting or had injuries that stopped there season from being better, but every one remembers the World Champ, the rest were who he beat. Next year ?????? Tbf, tai was probably the best rider in the world 2013. We, re now 2014 so it doesn't automatically follow that he is still the best rider in the world. Well my thread had bought a lot of discussion and surprise surprise its only Poole fans that don't think Tai was the best rider in the world last year. Can't believe Mr Shovlar hadn't commented as he was adamant it was only me and Stevebrum who felt this way! Come on Shovvy come on the thread and tell everyone else they are wrong as well. Or will you stay in hiding\ on holiday/ at work / computer not working any excuse. It is opinion but the facts say Darcy isn't at Tai's level and I would guess that 95% of the fans on here agree( we don't count children by the way argotron) I am no poole fan, but statistically jarek hampel was better than tai last year (appreciate that even stats are subjective, but both henry and I did ressonably extensive stat anakysis and both had hampel as top). Secondly, while stats show tai clearly outperformed Darcy last year, that doesnt mean tai is the better rider. Better in 2013 yes. But darcy had been far better in preceding seasons. So who is the better rider is a subjective opinion, id actually go with darcy, though he hasnt yet had a season as good as tais 2013. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Well my thread had bought a lot of discussion and surprise surprise its only Poole fans that don't think Tai was the best rider in the world last year. Can't believe Mr Shovlar hadn't commented as he was adamant it was only me and Stevebrum who felt this way! Come on Shovvy come on the thread and tell everyone else they are wrong as well. Or will you stay in hiding\ on holiday/ at work / computer not working any excuse. It is opinion but the facts say Darcy isn't at Tai's level and I would guess that 95% of the fans on here agree( we don't count children by the way argotron) Why you picking on me for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonButler Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) I don't understand why this thread has been restarted by the same poster on the same day and at the same time of day! so, another thread has been started because fans dont believe tia was the beast rider in the world.. hence, he is world champion in 2013.. 'the beast rider' Don't think many of us would regard young Mr Woffinden as such, Jenga. Personally, I regard him as being the best rider in the the world last season. Edited January 13, 2014 by Rod Butler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Tai was excellent for Wroclaw as well to be fair He was excellent in Bydgoszcz on the Saturday for the GP Then a 15 point maximun against a strong Czestochowa side seeing off Sajfutdinov and Laguta with ease He was a deserving World Champion 5 or 6 blokes could win it this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Hang on didn't someone on here think David Howe was going to be World Champion? Another that gets the quote wrong. Not that i`m surprised as some posters make it up just to suit. But an expected post from one of the forum`s predictable trolls. Steve brum - I cant figure out why you quoted me before posting this? I just included both your comments as positive replies to the nonsense some are putting up as logic as to why Tai wasn't the best rider of 2013. It wasn't a criticism! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Steve brum - I cant figure out why you quoted me before posting this? I am no poole fan, but statistically jarek hampel was better than tai last year (appreciate that even stats are subjective, but both henry and I did ressonably extensive stat anakysis and both had hampel as top). Secondly, while stats show tai clearly outperformed Darcy last year, that doesnt mean tai is the better rider. Better in 2013 yes. But darcy had been far better in preceding seasons. So who is the better rider is a subjective opinion, id actually go with darcy, though he hasnt yet had a season as good as tais 2013. Of course Ward is overall a better rider than Tai. I cheered Tai to his world title but he had massive luck along the way as every one of his challengers got injured and fell out of contention. Good for him on his title though! Darcy overall is a better rider. More aggressive, a better passer, generally more exciting all round. If others disagree that is their opinion, this is mine. If Darcy hadn't been injured I feel 100% sure he would be WC right now. Darcy for me every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Of course Ward is overall a better rider than Tai. Darcy overall is a better rider. More aggressive, a better passer, generally more exciting all round. If others disagree that is their opinion, this is mine. If Darcy hadn't been injured I feel 100% sure he would be WC right now. Darcy for me every time. So you keep saying. It must be a Poole thing as the overwhelming evidence is clear that Tai is. If my Auntie had dangly things she would be my Uncle also. No doubt you still believe Poole were the deserved Champions in 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Can you someone please tell me where they'll put all the injuries to other riders in 2013 that gifted Tai the title in the Speedway honours book?. All it will say is WORLD CHAMPION 2013- TAI WOFFINDEN & opinions are one thing but the plain facts will be there forever which is the most important fact. End of. So you keep saying. It must be a Poole thing as the overwhelming evidence is clear that Tai is. If my Auntie had dangly things she would be my Uncle also. No doubt you still believe Poole were the deserved Champions in 2010 You're wasting your time trying to reason with someone who's posts sound like a besotted teenage girl most of the time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 So you keep saying. It must be a Poole thing as the overwhelming evidence is clear that Tai is. If my Auntie had dangly things she would be my Uncle also. No doubt you still believe Poole were the deserved Champions in 2010 You just cant stand the thought that other fans have a different opinion. You can say what you like but at the end of the day IMO it's Ward over Tai any day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 You just cant stand the thought that other fans have a different opinion. You can say what you like but at the end of the day IMO it's Ward over Tai any day of the week. You mean YOU cant stand the thought that our World Champ is preffered by the vast majority as best rider of 2013. When Ward has achieved what Tai has you may then have a point. At the moment all you have is your opinion, which only some Pooleites agree with. Must be hard to take the truth that golden boy is playing catch up to the World`s best. Maybe this year he will realise that ability, until then he hasn't delivered the ultimate goal. 2nd rate in anyone`s book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 on this subject you actually can be wrong...crazy robin IS right..the messiah darcy would be a forgotten man if he never wins world title..tai will be engraved in speedway world FOREVER..i really cant believe people see this any other way.. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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