SCB Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Wasn't the issue with Campton and Masters last year that they re-applied too late and were told there was no right of appeal? in which case it looks bleak for those in trouble now. The weird rthing is that while a few of us are all for blocking tripe like James Holder (and even Mason Campton last year) riding over here, Jason Doyle is most definitely someone who should be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Arson Fire - I have sent you a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Wasn't the issue with Campton and Masters last year that they re-applied too late and were told there was no right of appeal? in which case it looks bleak for those in trouble now. The weird rthing is that while a few of us are all for blocking tripe like James Holder (and even Mason Campton last year) riding over here, Jason Doyle is most definitely someone who should be here. Even if you can't appeal, you can re-apply. It's not the same thing. An appeal is based on the application you put in whereas if you re-apply it is a fresh application and the previous one has no bearing on the outcome. The current Government are becoming biger and bigger pains in the backsides over visa rules lately. You can't afford to cut corners any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G the Bee Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Well I'm sure most of us can recall the All Party Parliamentary Group for Speedway, which was set up with such fanfare a few months ago. Surely this is the exact kind of situation where they should be able to bring their influence to bear? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Even if you can't appeal, you can re-apply. It's not the same thing. An appeal is based on the application you put in whereas if you re-apply it is a fresh application and the previous one has no bearing on the outcome. The current Government are becoming biger and bigger pains in the backsides over visa rules lately. You can't afford to cut corners any more. But surely if you missed the deadline and can't appeal it then re-applying means you're going to miss the deadline again... if it was that simple Mason Campton and Sam Masters would not have missed a whole season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Arson Fire - I have sent you a PM. replied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 But surely if you missed the deadline and can't appeal it then re-applying means you're going to miss the deadline again... if it was that simple Mason Campton and Sam Masters would not have missed a whole season Deadline applied by whom? The BSPA? I don't see how there would be a UKBA deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Deadline applied by whom? The BSPA? I don't see how there would be a UKBA deadline. It's nothing to do with the BSPA. Last season the reason Sam Masters missed out is he re-applied for his work permit after the date that he needed to apply and was told he could not appeal it. obviously if he missed the dater it wasn't worth applying again as he would still miss the date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 It's nothing to do with the BSPA. Last season the reason Sam Masters missed out is he re-applied for his work permit after the date that he needed to apply and was told he could not appeal it. obviously if he missed the dater it wasn't worth applying again as he would still miss the date. I guess there must be a bit more detail to it then. Maybe he had old documents or whatever. You get riders joining mid-season sometimes and applying for work permits. You can apply for one any time. So there must be some specific detail missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I guess there must be a bit more detail to it then. Maybe he had old documents or whatever. You get riders joining mid-season sometimes and applying for work permits. You can apply for one any time. So there must be some specific detail missing. Maybe a signature - or 'X' in the right place?! Well I'm sure most of us can recall the All Party Parliamentary Group for Speedway, which was set up with such fanfare a few months ago. Surely this is the exact kind of situation where they should be able to bring their influence to bear? I'm sure someone will arrange another drinks reception on the terrace at the House of Commons to discuss the options!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 It seems that Sam Masters initially failed on a "technicality". And because of a "new rule". Strange that nobody seems to want to say what this technicality or new rule is though. http://www.edinburghmonarchs.co/news/article.asp?id=1271 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Potter 2 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) TWK NO!!! You are a 'Geordie' - that is something entirely different. :rofl: And me born in Elswick just off the Scotswood Road. Edited January 5, 2014 by Mad Potter 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I guess there must be a bit more detail to it then. Maybe he had old documents or whatever. You get riders joining mid-season sometimes and applying for work permits. You can apply for one any time. So there must be some specific detail missing. Australian riders? I can't think of any Aussies in recent times who have joined a club mid-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Maybe his appeal was too late. You only have a certain amount of time between when you get your refusal and when you can appeal. But you can still re-apply with a new application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 It seems that Sam Masters initially failed on a "technicality". And because of a "new rule". Strange that nobody seems to want to say what this technicality or new rule is though. http://www.edinburghmonarchs.co/news/article.asp?id=1271 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/motor-sports/edinburgh-monarchs-turn-politicians-help-1780536 "The regulations were altered four months ago to make sure those who let their visa expire cannot re-apply for 12 months." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I think that was the situation last year as well. The Aussies riders concerned had let their permits lapse, when the rules stated that they had to renew it before the date. They were refused as the deadline had passed, therefore the rules made them wait another 12 months before reapplying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/motor-sports/edinburgh-monarchs-turn-politicians-help-1780536 "The regulations were altered four months ago to make sure those who let their visa expire cannot re-apply for 12 months." Ah right. That's the good old UKBA and their ever changing rules then, which I'm sure they do purely to catch people out so that they can refuse them. It's basically a way of doctoring immigration figures by punishing those who try to do things properly because it's easier than trying to do anything about those who don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pedaler Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 If someone like Jason Doyle who has kept his nose clean is having difficulties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 But if applying for work you ensure you check and meet the desired criteria well in advance, especially after last year..... It's not rocket science surely?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 But if applying for work you ensure you check and meet the desired criteria well in advance, especially after last year..... It's not rocket science surely?? Yes, you would think so, but Grachan wouldn't have a gripe about the Immigration Department then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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