TMW Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 My own personal view is there should be freedom of movement between Australia/NZ and the UK anyway, but if people on the one hand want more restrictions, then I don't see any compelling reasons why speedway should be exempt. But.....it should work both ways. It's not a 1 way street 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyfivetoes Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Today's Speedway Star names Kozza Smith as another of the affected riders. First time I've heard his name in the frame. Are there any more surprises out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 I understand from local shopkeepers in my area who have refused a £50 note is because forgeries are very hard to detect. I am uncertain how factual this may be? Forged £50 are the easiest to detect as there are so many security features on them. They are however the least forged note out there. Alot of places wont accept £50 notes as if there is a forgery you could lose alot more money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Looks like we have some progress on some Aussies riding in the UK this season .... http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/3130/visa-breakthrough-for-doyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Don't think it's all threw though, From what I've heard they can apply for a tier 5 application, but the decision is handled in an office In Manila . So the BSPA can do all the ground work and still be refused entry. If clubs had just followed the guidelines in the start none of this would be happening. Good luck though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Don't think it's all threw though, From what I've heard they can apply for a tier 5 application, but the decision is handled in an office In Manila . So the BSPA can do all the ground work and still be refused entry. If clubs had just followed the guidelines in the start none of this would be happening. Good luck though From what I've heard The BSPA did nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Theres an excellent summary of the latest visa situation in the SS this week! Also explains why each case may be different!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Ths might work for Jason as he is arguably proven at the highest level but I don't see how it's going to help any of the others listed on the GP site as they';re certainly not proven at the highest level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Ths might work for Jason as he is arguably proven at the highest level but I don't see how it's going to help any of the others listed on the GP site as they';re certainly not proven at the highest level. The full wording is; "Tier 5 (Temporary worker - creative and sporting) For people coming to work or perform in the UK for up to 12 months as sportspeople, entertainers or creative artists. Sportspeople must be internationally established at the highest level in your sport, and/or their job must make a significant contribution to the development and running of sport at the highest level." It gives a little bit more wriggle room if the "and/or" part refers to the highest level in this country in that any member of an EL team can be said to be contributing to the sport at the highest domestic level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Imo only Doyle would fit with the quoted criteria in the Alan Jones post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 From what I've heard The BSPA did nothing. From what I've heard The BSPA did nothing. Lol so who is working on getting these riders into the country then ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 The full wording is; "Tier 5 (Temporary worker - creative and sporting) For people coming to work or perform in the UK for up to 12 months as sportspeople, entertainers or creative artists. Sportspeople must be internationally established at the highest level in your sport, and/or their job must make a significant contribution to the development and running of sport at the highest level." It gives a little bit more wriggle room if the "and/or" part refers to the highest level in this country in that any member of an EL team can be said to be contributing to the sport at the highest domestic level. But all the riders on the GP website that are mentioned are PL riders. 2 PL reserves and 2 PL 3rd heatleaders. By no stretch of the imagination do they meet the criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 But all the riders on the GP website that are mentioned are PL riders. 2 PL reserves and 2 PL 3rd heatleaders. By no stretch of the imagination do they meet the criteria. yes,,, but are the people looking at their applications aware of that ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Looks like we have some progress on some Aussies riding in the UK this season .... http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/3130/visa-breakthrough-for-doyle That was last Wednesday! Keep up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) That was last Wednesday! Keep up. Thanks for the patronising advice, but I have a mum already. And as I say to her, I have a life! Edited February 8, 2014 by george.m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 But all the riders on the GP website that are mentioned are PL riders. 2 PL reserves and 2 PL 3rd heatleaders. By no stretch of the imagination do they meet the criteria. The wording isn't much different from tier 2 visas which they would normally use: "The Tier 2 (Sportsperson) category is for elite sportspeople and coaches who are internationally established at the highest level, and will make a significant contribution to the development of their sport. Your application will need to be endorsed by your sport's governing body." The BSPA probably aren't doing their job properly in approving only those who genuinely meet the required criteria... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brujas Espanolas Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) But all the riders on the GP website that are mentioned are PL riders. 2 PL reserves and 2 PL 3rd heatleaders. By no stretch of the imagination do they meet the criteria.The criteria to gain a GBE which is a prerequisite of gaining either a type 2 or type 5 visa is quite specific. They were set at in 2009 and haven't, as far as I'm aware, been changed. GOVERNING BODY ENDORSEMENT The Governing Body Endorsement (GBE) requirements for non-European Economic Area (EEA) nationals to be employed in British Speedway in 2009 : Any Speedway promotion wishing to employ an individual rider to participate in their team will be required to guarantee that, for the previous season, the rider for whom the application is made has fulfilled one of the following criteria. a) Australia/ New Zealand/ U.S.A. Finished in the first four in the state Championships For the following countries which have professional speedway leagues: Poland, the Czech Republic and Sweden Achieved an average in excess of 6.00 points while competing in:Poland - Extra League and First Division Czech Republic - First Division Sweden - Elite League and First Division c) For riders who have competed, in the previous season, in any country not listed above, the rider must be the current National Champion to be considered eligible. Certificate of Sponsorships are normally approved for the speedway season which runs from 15th March to 31st October or for the contract period which can be for up to four years. Upon expiry of the permission granted by a Certificate of Sponsorship, a rider returning to the U.K. for the new season must have achieved the following averages in the previous U.K. season or have qualified by meeting the requirements of a) or or c) above. Elite League - 4.00 points Premier League - 7.00 points No exceptions or extensions will be granted to riders failing to achieve the averages except in the case of injury, medical evidence of which must be supplied. Edited February 8, 2014 by Brujas Espanolas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Would question whether a visa is actually required by any EU nationals, including Sweden, Czech Republic, Denmark, Poland, in the first place. Perhaps the GBE documentation requires updating to reflect EU employment criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Would question whether a visa is actually required by any EU nationals, including Sweden, Czech Republic, Denmark, Poland, in the first place. Perhaps the GBE documentation requires updating to reflect EU employment criteria. They don't need one and haven't since at least 2001 (in the case of Czech and Poles). But if an rider needing a work permit achieved a qualifying average in the Swedish, Czech, Danish or Polish league they can get a UK permit/Visa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Posted by others on the Ipswich thread that Rohan Tungate has his visa (3year) safely in place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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