Grachan Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Nothing to do with immigration! This sort of attitude shows how the dumbing down by the Daily Mail is having such a dramatic effect Please explain what the Daily Mail has to do with anything. I don't understand your comment. You say this has nothing to do with immigration? I suggest you read the opening paragraph here: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/working/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo34 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 A few weeks ago we were told that a group of MPs would be helping speedway, could they not play a part in sorting out this mess? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) It could but what makes being a Speedway rider any differente then anyone else looking to come to Britain to work, if you involve MPs in visa problems, you will open it up to everyone who has had a visa turned down, and i don't think any MP will want to get involved with such a potentially massive issue that will involve much more than Speedway riders, to single them out from anyone else, would i feel be wrong, and any MP doing his job i feel might see it the same way. Edited January 31, 2014 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 A few weeks ago we were told that a group of MPs would be helping speedway, could they not play a part in sorting out this mess? As you say it's a group of MP's not an individual one, that is exactly what they are paid to do. If the group of MP's failed to take this up if requested to do so by the BSPA then i really fail to understand why there is any link at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) This has nothing to do with immigration, the Aussies are only wanting a work visa are they not ? Nothing to do with immigration! This sort of attitude shows how the dumbing down by the Daily Mail is having such a dramatic effect which would class them as an 'economic migrant',,, which has totally nothing to do with imigrant's,,, a dunno :-( Edited January 31, 2014 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Maybe what's happened has come about because of publc pressure, about the number of foreigners coming over and stealing our jobs and abusing our benefits system !!! The Government has said that it will have tighter control on imigration, and maybe they have, and starting in alphabetical order are being seen to be doing something, and obviously Austrailian's are getting looked at early. The other man must be looking at Afghanistan, :-)... Which, might be handy if your from Poland, or Romania and you could be way down the que,,, and if your Ukrainian, your just laughing all the way,,, just a thought, lol That's it!! You've got it. A quick call to the Commonwealth Office. "Hello - Please change the name of Australia to Zanzibar. Thank you very much". :approve: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 As you say it's a group of MP's not an individual one, that is exactly what they are paid to do. If the group of MP's failed to take this up if requested to do so by the BSPA then i really fail to understand why there is any link at all The BSPA probably can't afford the 'fees' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 The BSPA probably can't afford the 'fees' There shouldn't BE any Fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 That's it!! You've got it. A quick call to the Commonwealth Office. "Hello - Please change the name of Australia to Zanzibar. Thank you very much". :approve: If Freddie Mercury was still with us and was a speedway rider,,, he'd be ok, lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 There shouldn't BE any Fees. When it comes to a member of our great Parliament doing anything. There is always a 'fee' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Can't believe you would suggest that MP's might want a fee! Obviously expenses would have to be covered, something in the region of a years mortgage payments and a nice holiday should cover that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 When it comes to a member of our great Parliament doing anything. There is always a 'fee' Can't believe you would suggest that MP's might want a fee! Obviously expenses would have to be covered, something in the region of a years mortgage payments and a nice holiday should cover that. We obviously have the same view of our Elected Representatives. :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Can't believe you would suggest that MP's might want a fee! Obviously expenses would have to be covered, something in the region of a years mortgage payments and a nice holiday should cover that. do MP's have mortages ???,,, thought they just rented mortage free properties off their friends n family,,, a mean aquaintainses, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble53 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 I'm starting to think there's some self interest operating on the management committee, heaven forbid! Oh don't say that Nick, Tsunami will never talk to you again, as he feels remarks like that are not applicable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Oh don't say that Nick, Tsunami will never talk to you again, as he feels remarks like that are not applicable Freedom of Speech rules on this Forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Surely. Speedway riders could say that they fall into one of the below categories and not need to get a Visa to work. After all it is the government who have made these silly rules. High-value migrantsInvestors, entrepreneurs and exceptionally talented people can apply to enter or stay in the UK without needing a job offer - but you will need to pass a points-based assessment. Skilled workersIf you have been offered a skilled job in the UK and your prospective employer is willing to sponsor you, you can apply to come or remain here to do that job. Temporary workersIf an employer in the UK is willing to sponsor you, or if you are a national of a country that participates in the youth mobility scheme, you may be eligible to come and work in the UK for a short period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) Surely. Speedway riders could say that they fall into one of the below categories and not need to get a Visa to work. After all it is the government who have made these silly rules. High-value migrantsInvestors, entrepreneurs and exceptionally talented people can apply to enter or stay in the UK without needing a job offer - but you will need to pass a points-based assessment. Skilled workersIf you have been offered a skilled job in the UK and your prospective employer is willing to sponsor you, you can apply to come or remain here to do that job. Temporary workersIf an employer in the UK is willing to sponsor you, or if you are a national of a country that participates in the youth mobility scheme, you may be eligible to come and work in the UK for a short period. I'm not sure that you realise what you are providing links to. Those pages are the rules governing who qualifies for a visa, not a list of people who don't need a visa. Speedway riders from outside the EU receive the "Tier 2 Skilled Workers (sportsperson)" visas that you linked to above. Edited February 2, 2014 by HenryW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) So you cannot apply for a Visa for 12 months after it runs out. So how the hell can Jason get a Tier 5? His Tier 2 run out, he has to wait 12 months even if he fit the criteria. Edited February 2, 2014 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 After all it is the government who have made these silly rules. The government has made the silly rules because the public demands they do something about immigration (or migrant workers). The reality is that when you apply knee-jerk solutions to knee-jerk reactions, this is what you'll end up with. I'm not entirely convinced speedway riders should all be considered high-skill migrants anyway. I think it could be argued that British riders could fill many of the vacant positions, and speedway riders are certainly not essential to British industry. My own personal view is there should be freedom of movement between Australia/NZ and the UK anyway, but if people on the one hand want more restrictions, then I don't see any compelling reasons why speedway should be exempt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 The government has made the silly rules because the public demands they do something about immigration (or migrant workers). The reality is that when you apply knee-jerk solutions to knee-jerk reactions, this is what you'll end up with. I'm not entirely convinced speedway riders should all be considered high-skill migrants anyway. I think it could be argued that British riders could fill many of the vacant positions, and speedway riders are certainly not essential to British industry. My own personal view is there should be freedom of movement between Australia/NZ and the UK anyway, but if people on the one hand want more restrictions, then I don't see any compelling reasons why speedway should be exempt. Totally agree with that - and Canada too. :approve: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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