Pirate Nick Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) We may have accepted their notes, but many establishments away from the border will not, and who is to say they will accept Sterling. A friend of mine thought the same when he went from Northern Ireland to Eire, and had to return across the border to change his Sterling for some Euros, as the garage he had stopped at would only accept Euros. We may have accepted their notes, but many establishments away from the border will not, and who is to say they will accept Sterling. A friend of mine thought the same when he went from Northern Ireland to Eire, and had to return across the border to change his Sterling for some Euros, as the garage he had stopped at would only accept Euros. Alex Salmond: We will retain the pound Treasury: No you won't This is another example of the lies the Salmond is putting about. So Euros it is provided he gets membership which is doubtful as he'll have to join the queue for membership. Edited January 24, 2014 by Pirate Nick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Alex Salmond: We will retain the pound Treasury: No you won't How will that tie in with this guideline? http://www.scotbanks...al_position.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Someone told me that they weren't actually legal notes, but were honoured by their banks. They're NOT legal tender on Eurosport but they are on SKY. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Three Cricket journalists covering the Ashes have been chucked out of Australia due to Visa problems including the Sun's main man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Large denomination Scottish notes are taboo in some parts of the North East, as we have regularly had fakes mixed in with our currency. When I get them over the border, I do my utmost to get rid of them at the earliest possibly opportunity before i leave or on my return home. It's a little known fact that Scottish notes are not legal tender, not even in Scotland. They are essentially promissory notes that are accepted at the discretion of the recipient in the way that credit cards are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 How will that tie in with this guideline? http://www.scotbanks...al_position.phpMaybe you should phone your stockbroker and ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 How will that tie in with this guideline? http://www.scotbanks...al_position.php No Idea. The link you posted goes to a statement on the legal position of Scottish banknotes. My point was that Salmond has stated that Scotland will retain the pound sterling and the treasury has replied no you won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 so scotland are trying to move away from the uk and become its own country. will riders have to apply for a work permit(visa) to work in scotland and will the scottish riders have to apply for a work permit to ride in the uk. and have passports to present to the border agencies ..will the fans on both sides of the wall have to have passports, as if they were travelling abroad. sorry if its been posted befoe, but c.b.a. to look it up... Scotland would likely join the EU or at the very least have reciprocal working arrangements with the UK in the same way that the Republic of Ireland always did. It might affect work permit riders though, as the right of a non-EU/EEA national to work in the UK doesn't extend to other countries. With respect to border controls, that's an interesting one. Scotland would likely want to remain in the Common Travel Area (currently the UK, Ireland, Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man) which doesn't require passports, but one of the requirements of joining the EU as a new member is to join Schengen. It Scotland had to do that and the rest of the UK (and Ireland) remained outside the Schengen zone, they they'd be obliged to impose border controls with England. One reason the Republic of Ireland opted out of Schengen is they didn't want to have border controls with Northern Ireland. They were able to do that as they were already in the EU when Schengen came in, but Scotland may not have that option. It just demonstrates how ill-thought out SNP policy is. My point was that Salmond has stated that Scotland will retain the pound sterling and the treasury has replied no you won't. I'm not sure the UK could actually stop him. There are a number of countries (e.g. Ecuador and Montenegro) that use the US dollars or euros as their currency, so provided the Scottish government could secure enough pounds and Scottish businesses were prepared to accept them, then I can't see how you'd stop them circulating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Would appear that the visa requirements / rules are being tightened up all round : http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/25849031 Hull KR: Papua New Guinea duo Enoch Maki & Francis Paniu exit Hull Kingston Rovers have released Papua New Guinea duo Enoch Maki and Francis Paniu from their contracts. Prop-forward Maki and centre Paniu were part of the Kumuls squad at the recent Rugby League World Cup in England. And following the tournament, the 24-year-olds both agreed one-year deals at Craven Park, subject to successful visa and work permit applications. But these were not obtained, and the pair are now expected to return home to join Kokopo-based side PNG Hunters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 It's a little known fact that Scottish notes are not legal tender, not even in Scotland. They are essentially promissory notes that are accepted at the discretion of the recipient in the way that credit cards are. They're only legal tender if you can back up the note with one of those 'scottish' passports that you get in the m6 services and you're wearing a tartan 'see you jimmy' flat cap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Father in law used to work in Scotland and got paid on a fri after the banks had closed. The only place in Swindon that would change them was M&S and only because one of the supervisors there was Scottish. Most people had never seen Sottish money and would not accept or change it. Ahh me!! The ignorant English. :shock: Someone told me that they weren't actually legal notes, but were honoured by their banks. I was led to believe that the Scottish Bank Notes were guaranteed by the Bank of England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Here's a factual description regarding bank notes in Scotland: http://www.scotbanks.org.uk/legal_position.php All that means if I go into a shop and get the shop assistant to agree, I can pay in magic beans. Any shop can refuse your terms of payment or equally agree terms of payment with you. The only issue comes with credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 All that means if I go into a shop and get the shop assistant to agree, I can pay in magic beans. Any shop can refuse your terms of payment or equally agree terms of payment with you. The only issue comes with credit. Thank you for that most interesting Article SCB. :approve: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Ahh me!! The ignorant English. :shock: I was led to believe that the Scottish Bank Notes were guaranteed by the Bank of England. I think - and it will soon be jumped on if I am wrong - but that possibly is a correct definition of Scottish pounds in regard to £sterling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 All that means if I go into a shop and get the shop assistant to agree, I can pay in magic beans. Any shop can refuse your terms of payment or equally agree terms of payment with you. The only issue comes with credit. The definition of legal tender is that it must be accepted in settlement of a debt. In fact, even legal tender is not legal tender in certain circumstances, such as if you decide to pay in a thousand one pence pieces. In answer to TWK, I think Scottish banks are allowed to issue notes up to certain amount they have deposited with the Bank of England. I think this is approximately equal to how many Scots pounds that were in circulation at the time of the Union, so the total value of notes has actually declined in real terms over the years, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 All I know is that when I flew from London to Miami last year I had some Scottish bank notes that my uncle from Edinburgh had given me. The currency exchange folks at Miami airport didn't want anything to do with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) All I know is that when I flew from London to Miami last year I had some Scottish bank notes that my uncle from Edinburgh had given me. The currency exchange folks at Miami airport didn't want anything to do with them. Possibly I am again wrong - muffled guffaws in the BSF wings - but I don't think Scottish pounds have international currency exchange recognition. Edited January 24, 2014 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) I remember being in Yugoslavia and a group of holiday makers from Scotland came to the hotel and couldn't change their money,so one or two of my friends who were also from Scotland,but living in London took their Scottish notes in exchange for some local currency Edited January 24, 2014 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 The definition of legal tender is that it must be accepted in settlement of a debt. In fact, even legal tender is not legal tender in certain circumstances, such as if you decide to pay in a thousand one pence pieces. In answer to TWK, I think Scottish banks are allowed to issue notes up to certain amount they have deposited with the Bank of England. I think this is approximately equal to how many Scots pounds that were in circulation at the time of the Union, so the total value of notes has actually declined in real terms over the years, No, legal tender is what the courts have the accept. Nothing else. Many shops refuse to accept £50 notes but they are perfectly valid, legal tender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Am I on the wrong thread, topic seems to have changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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