Django Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Paul Burbidge @Paul_Burbidge1h Tyson Nelson confirmed he is waiting to hear back on his visa application. 900 AUD wasted if it's declined. #speedway Another for the list possibly I have been informed this morning that the visa problem may not only be affecting the 3 mentioned so far but could actually involve EVERY AUSSIE application!Could just be chinese whispers but...... A few have had their visas approved, Masters and Campton for definite on their Twitter pages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 I have been informed this morning that the visa problem may not only be affecting the 3 mentioned so far but could actually involve EVERY AUSSIE application! Could just be chinese whispers but...... Batchelor has got his in place, stayed in UK up until Christmas to ensure all was in order http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/speedway/10920013.Swindon_Robins_star_ready_to_chase_leader_Doyle_in_Australian_Championship/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Of course those that have visas safely in place no longer have an application being considered hence the wording every application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 How do you explain: "Across Europe, the actual wholesale gas price, together with suppliers' profit margins, represents 54% of an average gas bill, while distribution represents 23%, energy taxes 7% and sales tax 16%. In the UK, the price of energy including margins makes up 67% of a gas bill, while distribution represents 23%, energy taxes 6% and VAT 5%." From: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25639406 So strip out taxes and we are being ripped off by the energy companies, 13% higher! So in Europe they pay 100% of the price and in the UK we pay 100% of the price. Shocking. I don't see what that proves as they have in both cases there merged the supply cost and profit. All we know from that is what each pays in taxes. We have some of the cheapest utility prices in Europe. Fact. We DONT pay 13% I suggest you read it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 The council refuse collectors have been a day late where I live! They have taken the day off to apply for their visas 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Up Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Could riders be sponsored by the BSPA or the club that owns them to avoid the situation of not knowing where they are riding in time. Could be the only positive of the asset system! in short, no. An employer wishing to employ foreign nationals has to be approved by the UKBA. The BSPA aren't an employer and would never be approved. Batchelor has got his in place, stayed in UK up until Christmas to ensure all was in order http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/speedway/10920013.Swindon_Robins_star_ready_to_chase_leader_Doyle_in_Australian_Championship/ As far as I know you can only apply in your home country. That's always been the procedure in the past. Edited January 8, 2014 by Double Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) in short, no. An employer wishing to employ foreign nationals has to be approved by the UKBA. The BSPA aren't an employer and would never be approved. As far as I know you can only apply in your home country. That's always been the procedure in the past. Agree. In the past some have had to return home, apply and then return when granted. Edited January 8, 2014 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 in short, no. An employer wishing to employ foreign nationals has to be approved by the UKBA. The BSPA aren't an employer and would never be approved. As far as I know you can only apply in your home country. That's always been the procedure in the past. Not if you apply for an extension on an existing one. That has to be done in the UK and done at least 4 weeks before the other one expires. http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/visiting/sports/extend/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Batchelor had the right idea to remain in the country to get things sorted. Maybe all the others should have done the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Not if you apply for an extension on an existing one. That has to be done in the UK and done at least 4 weeks before the other one expires. http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/visiting/sports/extend/ Interesting you have to apply 4 weeks before the other one ends. So now we know Troy has his work permit we know that for season 2015 he needs to sign within the next 11 months. So any club wanting Troy now know he'll be desperate to get sorted in 11 months time (so Nov). But then the year after he'll need to be sorted by October. This mean riders will soon be in a position they have to miss a year every now and again. Edited January 8, 2014 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Interesting you have to apply 4 weeks before the other one ends. So now we know Troy has his work permit we know that for season 2015 he needs to within the next 11 months. So any club wanting Troy now know he'll be desperate to get sorted in 11 months time (so Nov). But then the year after he'll need to be sorted by October. This mean riders will soon be in a position they have to miss a year every now and again.Only if the start date is immediate rather than coming in force at the end of the old one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Interesting you have to apply 4 weeks before the other one ends. So now we know Troy has his work permit we know that for season 2015 he needs to sign within the next 11 months. So any club wanting Troy now know he'll be desperate to get sorted in 11 months time (so Nov). But then the year after he'll need to be sorted by October. This mean riders will soon be in a position they have to miss a year every now and again. It would come into effect when the old one expired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 in short, no. An employer wishing to employ foreign nationals has to be approved by the UKBA. The BSPA aren't an employer and would never be approved. As far as I know you can only apply in your home country. That's always been the procedure in the past. If the BSPA can't sponsor them then why can't the club that holds their registration and will collect the loan fee? Considering riders are self employed it is difficult to see the difference between them and the club that might sign them and drop them a week after the application is successful anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 It would come into effect when the old one expired. d'oh. Of course it's an extension. not a new 12 months from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 in short, no. An employer wishing to employ foreign nationals has to be approved by the UKBA. The BSPA aren't an employer and would never be approved. The BSPA are an approved governing body. The sponsor would, presumably, be the club. The sponsor needs to obtain an endorsement from the BSPA. So it's the BSPA that are approved rather than the clubs themselves. http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/working/tier5/creativeandsporting/#header2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 The BSPA are an approved governing body. The sponsor would, presumably, be the club. The sponsor needs to obtain an endorsement from the BSPA. So it's the BSPA that are approved rather than the clubs themselves. http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/working/tier5/creativeandsporting/#header2 Indeed, the Clubs themselves are approved to issue Sponsor Certificates to riders. The B.S.P.A are a UKBA Approved Governing Body. A rider will need a Sponsor Certificate issued by the Club, that Sponsor Certificate must be endorsed by BSPA and carry the applicable endorsement reference. Then they can apply for entry clearance (if Overseas at the time of applying) or an extension (if in the UK). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 If JD wins the Aussie championship does it shine a different light on his application Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 If JD wins the Aussie championship does it shine a different light on his application 1. He didn't. 2. Even if he had, he would have still let his last one lapse so would not have got one,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 1. He didn't. 2. Even if he had, he would have still let his last one lapse so would not have got one,. It was as it turned out a hypothetical question but if he had become National champion would this not entitle him to a visa. Maybe being National champion would override other factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Whether he won the Aussie Championship, or was in the first 4 of State championships, only entitles him to qualify to apply for entry with a Visa. What would happen if he did get win the Aussie championship and failed on other personal grounds/history. Hypothetical of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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