spin king Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Not sure but sure I have read that riders who are doubling up from Premier League to the Elite League, will now have to give preference to Elite League fixtures over Premier League fixtures, when there two teams have fixture clashes What are the implications for the Premier League riders are they allowed to use Guest riders or Rider Replacement. And the Draft riders are they supposed to give preference to their Elite League commitments as well.Could be a problem for some clubs as they have quite a few riders who are doubling up or are draft riders, as you will see here. Edinburgh Craig Cook Belle Vue Steve Worrall Swindon Ipswich Richie Worrall Belle Vue Adam Ellis Lakeside Newcastle Lewis Kerr Kings Lynn Lewis Rose Kings Lynn Peterborough Ryan Fisher Coventry Plymouth Ben Barker Birmingham Kyle Newman Poole Redcar Richie Lawson Lakeside Rye House Edward Kennett Birmingham Jason Garrity Coventry Simon Lambert Birmingham Somerset Jason Doyle Leicester Paul Starke Birmingham Workington Josh Grajczonek Poole Ricky Wells Wolverhampton Kyle Howarth Coventry Ashley Morris Wolverhampton Could be a problem over the season for some of these clubs especially Workington. I wonder if it had any bearing on Somerset's decision to release Nick Morris. Edited December 22, 2013 by spin king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Apparently if the rider is your asset you have priority. If not its down to who the rider has raced for longest. So Coventry have priority over Fisher as hes a Bees asset but they play second fiddle to Workington on Howarth as he's a Comets asset. Yet Jason Doyle is not the asset of either Leciester or Somerset so as Jason has raced for Somerset previously but not for Leciester then Somerset get priority. Looking at that list the only three I see being an issue are Steve Worrall, Kennett and Starke as they all have new EL and PL clubs for 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Apparently if the rider is your asset you have priority. If not its down to who the rider has raced for longest. So Coventry have priority over Fisher as hes a Bees asset but they play second fiddle to Workington on Howarth as he's a Comets asset. Yet Jason Doyle is not the asset of either Leciester or Somerset so as Jason has raced for Somerset previously but not for Leciester then Somerset get priority. Looking at that list the only three I see being an issue are Steve Worrall, Kennett and Starke as they all have new EL and PL clubs for 2014. Thanks for the clarification, making things very complicated and will be ineresting to see how it all pans out when season gets going and if get start getting some rain off meetings and fixture backlogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 TBF, even if it is a little confusing, I think it's fair and I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 What happens if a rider is say a Newcastle asset but he rides for, lets say, workington in the PL and Belle Vue in the El, Who would have priority of the rider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainAudi Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 What happens if a rider is say a Newcastle asset but he rides for, lets say, workington in the PL and Belle Vue in the El, Who would have priority of the rider? I thought it was the team the said rider signed for first called the shots, for example if Worky signed him before Belle Vue did, Worky fixtures take priority? If I am wrong then feel free to correct me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 What happens if a rider is say a Newcastle asset but he rides for, lets say, workington in the PL and Belle Vue in the El, Who would have priority of the rider? As SCB explained, the team he's been contracted to for the longer time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 As SCB explained, the team he's been contracted to for the longer time. A rider who has been riding for workington in the PL and Poole in the EL for exactly the same amount of time? A newcastle asset though. (This is only an example but i'm just trying to be awkward ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 A rider who has been riding for workington in the PL and Poole in the EL for exactly the same amount of time? A newcastle asset though. (This is only an example but i'm just trying to be awkward ) It's almost impossible to sign 2 contracts at the same time and totally impossible to ride the first match for each team at the same time. (I'm just trying to be patronising, no smiley used or implied.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 It's almost impossible to sign 2 contracts at the same time and totally impossible to ride the first match for each team at the same time. (I'm just trying to be patronising, no smiley used or implied.) ahh i understand now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 ahh i understand now My work here is done... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 TBF, even if it is a little confusing, I think it's fair and I like it. i agree its a better option for the parent club to have priority over any who have the rider on loan regardless of what league they run in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) Not sure but sure I have read that riders who are doubling up from Premier League to the Elite League, will now have to give preference to Elite League fixtures over Premier League fixtures, when there two teams have fixture clashes What are the implications for the Premier League riders are they allowed to use Guest riders or Rider Replacement. And the Draft riders are they supposed to give preference to their Elite League commitments as well.Could be a problem for some clubs as they have quite a few riders who are doubling up or are draft riders, as you will see here. Edinburgh Craig Cook Belle Vue (Edinburgh) Steve Worrall Swindon (Edinburgh) Ipswich Richie Worrall Belle Vue (Belle Vue) Adam Ellis Lakeside (Lakeside) Newcastle Lewis Kerr Kings Lynn (Kings Lynn) Lewis Rose Kings Lynn (Kings Lynn) Peterborough Ryan Fisher Coventry (Coventry) Plymouth Ben Barker Birmingham (Plymouth) Kyle Newman Poole (Poole) Redcar Richie Lawson Lakeside (Lakeside) Rye House Edward Kennett Birmingham (Rye House) Jason Garrity Coventry (Rye House) Simon Lambert Birmingham (Rye House) Somerset Jason Doyle Leicester (Somerset) Paul Starke Birmingham (Somerset) Workington Josh Grajczonek Poole (Poole) Ricky Wells Wolverhampton (Workington) Kyle Howarth Coventry (Workington) Ashley Morris Wolverhampton (Wolverhampton) Could be a problem over the season for some of these clubs especially Workington. I wonder if it had any bearing on Somerset's decision to release Nick Morris. So if in theory rider has a fixture clash with his club the team in brackets get the services of that rider. Edited December 22, 2013 by spin king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 So if in theory rider has a fixture clash with his club the team in brackets get the services of that rider. yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) So if in theory rider has a fixture clash with his club the team in brackets get the services of that rider. Remember though if the team in brackets changes the date of a meeting which then clashes with the d/u riders other club the rider will ride for the original scheduled meeting ie the other club. Edited December 22, 2013 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Remember though if the team in brackets changes the date of a meeting which then clashes with the d/u riders other club the rider will ride for the original scheduled meeting ie the other club. Sounds like an episode of Soap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 So if in theory rider has a fixture clash with his club the team in brackets get the services of that rider. I think you have Barker wrong, Birmingham will take priority as he'#s been there a few season, this is his first year (back) at Plymouth. other wise that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Just be informed by someone else that actually, PL takes priority, unless the EL clubs owns the riders. So Plymouth do get priority over Barker. it also means Recar get priority over Lawson - otherwise Spin Kings list is correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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