Guest Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) No. Ask BT Sport. Now do you know how many votes were cast in these unconfirmed South London Press awards, or even what the awards were, which year/century they were made,or which body organised the awards? As you say "unconfirmed awards for the South London Press". To end that debate, I will concede that the Newspaper Society do not give out awards. In fact, I now doubt if there is even a Newspaper Society. I was wrong. I bow to your greater knowledge of these matters. So far as getting voting figures from the BT for their Minority Sports award, I have tried several links that I have found but get no response from them to my queries. Edited December 23, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 It seems that some people are too busy making silly non-topic comments to answer bona-fide queries. I am used to these sort of people. There was a time when I was the letters editor at a local newspaper and we used to get similar letters. They were always "quickly filed" - in the waste paper bin. One usually finds when these sort of comments start appearing it indicates that the perpetrators are losing their argument and attempting to move away from what the debate is all about. Usually by attacking the Poster rather than the Post. The hole you are digging is big enough now, stop digging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Why don't you try this link then? https://bt.custhelp.com/app/contact#h=eyJzdGVwMCI6ImNvbnRhY3RJdGVtTGluazU2NDIiLCJzdGVwSWR4IjowfQ As Bryn mentioned yesterday the logical step for you to take in your crusade to ascertain the voting figures would be to contact BT themselves. I have tried all of these links - they are mainly customer related contacts. I think the BT section that organised the Poll is a different sector of the organisation. The hole you are digging is big enough now, stop digging. Maybe the BT Minority Poll figures will be found at the bottom of the hole! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I know this is a bit left field, but have you tried phoning them? Number is on this link. https://bt.custhelp.com/app/contact#h=eyJzdGVwMCI6ImNvbnRhY3RJdGVtTGluazU2NDIiLCJzdGVwMSI6ImNvbnRhY3RJdGVtTGluazU2NDIsNjU2NCIsInN0ZXBJZHgiOjF9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I know this is a bit left field, but have you tried phoning them?Why am I reminded of this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qonpElvRu8Q 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Tai Woffinden - 2415 Nick Matthew- 272 Ben Skinner- 260 Rachel Atherton- 242 Gary Hunt - 83 So it looks like Tai didn't just win it, he trounced it. I got this by counting the number of times each of the nominees hashtags were mentioned on twitter, so the votes are easily verifiable by anyone - thats the beauty of a twitter vote rather than email, phone or carrier pigeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) Tai Woffinden - 2415 Nick Matthew- 272 Ben Skinner- 260 Rachel Atherton- 242 Gary Hunt - 83 So it looks like Tai didn't just win it, he trounced it. I got this by counting the number of times each of the nominees hashtags were mentioned on twitter, so the votes are easily verifiable by anyone - thats the beauty of a twitter vote rather than email, phone or carrier pigeon. One minor query and that is to ask you if you might possibly have miscounted for I thought Tai's hashtags totalled 2416 although I might well have made a mistake of course! Edited December 23, 2013 by Bryn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Shame that yet again the real reason for an awards topic gets railroaded off on minutiae Well done Tai on your win and on coming over so well, again, on the video you sent in acknowledging the award 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) Shame that yet again the real reason for an awards topic gets railroaded off on minutiae Well done Tai on your win and on coming over so well, again, on the video you sent in acknowledging the award I endorse everything you say Lioness. I asked what was a simple question - for the now answered total of votes - and "the usual gang" joined in to discount the query - probably because it was by myself, now seemingly the most "hated man on the BSF". In the end, we got there thanks to the efforts of SCB. Edited December 23, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I endorse everything you say Lioness. I asked what was a simple question - for the now answered total of votes - and "the usual gang" joined in to discount the query - probably because it was by myself, now seemingly the most "hated man on the BSF". In the end, we got there thanks to the efforts of SCB. I very much doubt that gustix. Keep Posting - at least most of your views are interesting. I'm not saying I always agree with you - I don't. BUT - I wouldn't want anyone transferring my Post to the Sycophant Thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Thank god that's sorted. ...... It was almost turning into an elephantman -esqe banging on about air fences thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) Sometimes you need to do the small things well in order to make the big things happen. Well done Tai and good luck on forcing the publicity door open wide next year. Edited December 24, 2013 by rmc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Here is a comparison of the votes cast in the BBC SPOTY and the BT Minority Sports Person of the Year Award. :::::::::::::::: The BBC SPOTY press release in regard to viewer voting: “What a show. What a sporting year. What a winner. Congratulations to Wimbledon champion Andy Murray - 2013 BBC Sports Personality of the Year - and all the other award winners. “Here are the voting results which show that it was a landslide victory for Murray, the Scot scoring a whopping 56 per cent of the vote”. Andy Murray (tennis): 401,470 Leigh Halfpenny (rugby union): 65,913 AP McCoy (horse racing): 57,854 Mo Farah (athletics): 51,945 Sir Ben Ainslie (competitive yachtsman): 48,140 Chris Froome (cycling): 37,343 Hannah Cockroft (wheelchair athlete): 26,151 Christine Ohuruogu (athletics): 13,179 Justin Rose (golf): 9,833 Ian Bell (cricket): 5,626 Total: 717,454 NOTE: The SPOTY programme was watched by 14 million viewers. ::::::::::::::: And here are the figures for the BT Minority Sports Person of the Year Award: Tai Woffinden speedway): 2,415 Nick Matthew (squash): 272 Ben Skinner (surf boarding): 260 Rachel Atherton (cycling): 242 Gary Hunt (diving): 83 Total: 5,430 ::::::::::::: Conclusion: A difference of 712,024 votes cast overall with the BT winner polling 3,211 less votes than the lowest place BBC SPOTY candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Here is a comparison of the votes cast in the BBC SPOTY and the BT Minority Sports Person of the Year Award. :::::::::::::::: The BBC SPOTY press release in regard to viewer voting: “What a show. What a sporting year. What a winner. Congratulations to Wimbledon champion Andy Murray - 2013 BBC Sports Personality of the Year - and all the other award winners. “Here are the voting results which show that it was a landslide victory for Murray, the Scot scoring a whopping 56 per cent of the vote”. Andy Murray (tennis): 401,470 Leigh Halfpenny (rugby union): 65,913 AP McCoy (horse racing): 57,854 Mo Farah (athletics): 51,945 Sir Ben Ainslie (competitive yachtsman): 48,140 Chris Froome (cycling): 37,343 Hannah Cockroft (wheelchair athlete): 26,151 Christine Ohuruogu (athletics): 13,179 Justin Rose (golf): 9,833 Ian Bell (cricket): 5,626 Total: 717,454 NOTE: The SPOTY programme was watched by 14 million viewers. ::::::::::::::: And here are the figures for the BT Minority Sports Person of the Year Award: Tai Woffinden speedway): 2,415 Nick Matthew (squash): 272 Ben Skinner (surf boarding): 260 Rachel Atherton (cycling): 242 Gary Hunt (diving): 83 Total: 5,430 ::::::::::::: Conclusion: A difference of 712,024 votes cast overall with the BT winner polling 3,211 less votes than the lowest place BBC SPOTY candidate. And this from a guy who had a glittering career in this sport, and now in his dotage takes great glee out of 'liking' any old rubbish people put in posts, and delights in highlighting rubbish comparisons like the above. Move on old fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) And this from a guy who had a glittering career in this sport, and now in his dotage takes great glee out of 'liking' any old rubbish people put in posts, and delights in highlighting rubbish comparisons like the above. Move on old fella. Your response reads more like an "Attack on the Poster rather than on the Post." Be fair - my Post is no more than a comparison of voting figures in the two polls. What is wrong with that? Some people enjoy reading such comparisons - possibly there are BSF members who will do so? In my Post I made no comment in favour of either poll - I just itemised as they say "the facts of the matter." Edited December 25, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skthecat Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Well when I phoned BT to ascertain the poll vote, I was told there were no nominee's from Any athletics field events!!! Bom, Bom!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Well when I phoned BT to ascertain the poll vote, I was told there were no nominee's from Any athletics field events!!! Bom, Bom!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nor do I see any athletics as such in the BT Sports vote results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skthecat Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Nor do I see any athletics as such in the BT Sports vote results? That was meant to be funny! ! Results of the [ poll vote ] Poll Vote [ Pole Vault ] Never mind, its getting late......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) That was meant to be funny! ! Results of the [ poll vote ] Poll Vote [ Pole Vault ] Never mind, its getting late......... Yes, I can see the humour now. As you say "Never mind, it's getting late..." Edited December 25, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Conclusion: A difference of 712,024 votes cast overall with the BT winner polling 3,211 less votes than the lowest place BBC SPOTY candidate. Who would ever have thought it...The BBC SPOTY which focuses on mainstream sports and is hosted by a TV channel available to all UK TV viewers provided a far higher response than a vote for minority sports on a channel available to a small minority of UK TV viewers. Interestingly, BT Sport has an audience share of 0.2% according to wikipedia, compared to BBC's 100% That would mean that by audience share, Tai polled 3x as many votes as the BBC winner Andy Murray....WOW!!! It's amazing what you can do when you play with statistics. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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