Crazy robin Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 No improvement in Howarth? A 4pt man who was averaging 6 in the 2nd half of last season. Still young also, tonnes of improvement to come. The rest I can see your point but I think Harris will have an improved season. You might be right on that one but will he average 6 when not at reserve?. I hope he does as he did a great job for The Robins last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Wolves 3rd and Coventry 9th - really? You may end up being right, but I think the majority think that Coventry will be at the upper end and Wolves in the middle. I'm also not so sure about Eastbourne making the play-offs but a few people have them down for that due to their home track advantage. Steve, Bomber might be on a 'bargain' 6.82 but under the format will he improve on it? Got to be doubtful IMO. I worry about Garrity hurting himself again with his riding style. 2 reasons behind the Eastbourne thing. One you mention, the other being Michelsen. If the short time he had over here last year is anything to go by he'll make a mockery of 5.00, especially as he starts as a 2nd string. As for Wolves, I'm expecting us to begin slowly but improve as season progresses unless Pawlicki gets hissed off with it in which case you will be the one who was right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Steve, Bomber might be on a 'bargain' 6.82 but under the format will he improve on it? Got to be doubtful IMO. I worry about Garrity hurting himself again with his riding style. 2 reasons behind the Eastbourne thing. One you mention, the other being Michelsen. If the short time he had over here last year is anything to go by he'll make a mockery of 5.00, especially as he starts as a 2nd string. As for Wolves, I'm expecting us to begin slowly but improve as season progresses unless Pawlicki gets hissed off with it in which case you will be the one who was right Every winter people used to say Travis McGowan was on a bargain average but he never used to improve & I can't see Bomber improving his that much with the new format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 You might be right on that one but will he average 6 when not at reserve?. I hope he does as he did a great job for The Robins last season. If Howarth is struggling a few weeks in then one of Roynon or Auty can be brought in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Swindon Kings Lynn Bellevue Poole Lakeside Eastbourne Coventry Wolves Birmingham Leicester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) I see, most people seem to except Lynn will be in the forefront of the league this year, and admit, the thought does please me. But, probably, this year, with the new format I believe it will be far closer the most seem to think. We at Lynn have 3 strong Heat leaders at the expense of the 2nd strings.This could benefit the team big time, but these 3 riders wont win matches on their own and the others will be expected to win a few points as well. We have decent draft riders, who should more than hold their own and 2 second strings who will no doubt improve. I expect their scores at home will be more effective than those from away. But their are a lot of variables to consider and youngsters coming good before I believe Lynn to be certain Elite league contenders. The main aim is to finish in the top four. Once that has been achieved then the world is your oyster. To me Poole look the obvious choice, but not so certain as in other years. Coventry, Belle Vue, Swindon, Wolves can all win regularly and must have thought about finishing high enough. Only a fool would write off Lakeside and Eastbourne with their impressive home forms. I appreciate they appear to have a massive advantage at home but they are also capable of winning away. This I believe will always put them in the mix. That only leaves Birmingham and Leicester. Birmingham performed really well last year and surprised many with their fighting spirit. On paper they don't look that strong. but if they can win some of their early fixtures and put some points on the board then who knows what could happen. New-comers, Leicester will find the going tough coming up from the Premier. They will find out, there isn't any easy matches in this league. If they can perform regularly at home that will ensure enough points not to be disgraced....and that must be their first goal.... No I think we could have a close, and wonderful year of racing, with many teams in the mix for the play-offs. I don't think the Stars will hit the floor running, but I feel we have enough potential to be up there, when it mattered. The only problem I see, is that there are a lot of teams that could be like that.......... Edited March 10, 2014 by GRW123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I think Lambert and Porsing will probably struggle a little early on, particularly away from home. I see then improving greatly as the season goes on though, and they will hopefully peak for the Play Offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmiler Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Now I have a more understanding of the format my prediction hasn't changed that much. A lot of teams are riding on one particular rider in their line up and if they get injured their seasons will be completely different. A lot of pressure on the likes of Garrity, Grajczonek, Michelsen etc.... 1. Kings Lynn 2. Poole 3. Coventry 4. Wolves 5. Belle Vue 6. Swindon 7. Lakeside 8. Eastbourne 9. Leicester 10. Birmingham Between 4 and 8 could be in any order. Birmingham look atrocious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I think Lambert and Porsing will probably struggle a little early on, particularly away from home. I see then improving greatly as the season goes on though, and they will hopefully peak for the Play Offs.Of course the prudent - if morally suspect - thing for kl to do would be to wait until porsing has added a couple of points to his average, as he is likely to do under this format, and then aim to replace him with a "genuine" five pointer.Same would apply to bv with palm toft and poole with milik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I hope not, would much rather stick with the same seven all year and watch the team develop. Nothing announced yet but I'd be astounded if some kind of weighting isn't applied to second string's averages to reflect their easier heats this year and stop them being replaced by ringers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I dont think its that simple to weight averages. Youd need to do some sort of calculation around meetings ridden as a second string. But then wgat about riders whose rolling average includes rides last season at reserve. Heat leaders who have appeared in most heat 15s compared to those who dont? Anyway rules for the season are out and no refrrence to weighting averages, arguabky too late now to try to introduce such a rule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 In that case its an open invitation to bring better riders in for second strings with inflated averages, which IMO will be an absolute nonsense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I think Lambert and Porsing will probably struggle a little early on, particularly away from home. I see then improving greatly as the season goes on though, and they will hopefully peak for the Play Offs. I don't know why people think porsing will struggle he has plenty of ability (you can see he'll make it ) and no doubt will be more prepared machine wise / and mentally prepared this coming season , I was hoping he was going to d-up with panthers ,in my eyes he'll make a mockery of his starting average , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 In that case its an open invitation to bring better riders in for second strings with inflated averages, which IMO will be an absolute nonsense. This was always my contention when the protected format was first mentioned. Come July / Aug, the top riders will see their MA drop or stagnate, whereas 2nd string will see their MA soar to unbelievable levels. So when the teams plan squads for next year, the 2nd strings MA will be too high and they will be out of a job, and squads will be made up with HL on ridiculous low averages.... Another issue, is those top riders, not competing in the Elite this year, will have CMA so high no one will want them........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 In that case its an open invitation to bring better riders in for second strings with inflated averages, which IMO will be an absolute nonsense. Make it that all teams keep the same 7 riders all season a part from if a rider gets injured long term that way it will be who got it right when putting the team together at the start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) This was always my contention when the protected format was first mentioned. Come July / Aug, the top riders will see their MA drop or stagnate, whereas 2nd string will see their MA soar to unbelievable levels. So when the teams plan squads for next year, the 2nd strings MA will be too high and they will be out of a job, and squads will be made up with HL on ridiculous low averages.... Another issue, is those top riders, not competing in the Elite this year, will have CMA so high no one will want them........ But it will be the same for ALL teams, so whether it happens or not, ALL teams will have the same opportunity!! As far as next season is concerned, that depends on what the team building average is for 2015?! Edited March 7, 2014 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 But it will be the same for ALL teams, so whether it happens or not, ALL teams will have the same opportunity!! As far as next season is concerned, that depends on what the team building average is for 2015?! But that doesn't make it right, or good or a benefit for the sport. We talk about the lost supporters and the lack of new fans, but we need continuality of teams and rules set in stone. Changing them each year is not the way to go about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I don't know why people think porsing will struggle he has plenty of ability (you can see he'll make it ) and no doubt will be more prepared machine wise / and mentally prepared this coming season , I was hoping he was going to d-up with panthers ,in my eyes he'll make a mockery of his starting average , I think you are right but I see the four younger members of the side developing throughout the season, and Lynn fans shouldn't panic if we get off to a slow start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowandblack Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 This season definitely looks wide open and plenty of different predictions here. A lot of it will come down to injuries I imagine.. I think the Bees have the strongest side on paper although I know very little about Hansen. Can't see Poole doing the business again nor Swindon at least not in the league proper but the POs are unpredictable at this stage of the year . Kings Lynn look top heavy. Def not contesting for playoff - Eastbourne, Leicester, Birmingham 1. Coventry 2. Belle Vue 3. Kings Lynn 4. Poole 5. Wolves 6. Lakeside 7. Swindon 8. Leicester 9. Eastbourne 10. Birmingham Craig Cook to excel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 This season definitely looks wide open and plenty of different predictions here. A lot of it will come down to injuries I imagine.. I think the Bees have the strongest side on paper although I know very little about Hansen. Can't see Poole doing the business again nor Swindon at least not in the league proper but the POs are unpredictable at this stage of the year . Kings Lynn look top heavy. Def not contesting for playoff - Eastbourne, Leicester, Birmingham 1. Coventry 2. Belle Vue 3. Kings Lynn 4. Poole 5. Wolves 6. Lakeside 7. Swindon 8. Leicester 9. Eastbourne 10. Birmingham Craig Cook to excel You are having a laugh as Poole will be in the final with their line up & Belle Vue will do well if the "Rolling King" Craig Cook is allowed to get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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