Steve0 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Do you know something that the rest of us don't? I think it shows he doesn't know much about speedway Time will tell who is right and who isn't but it won't be SS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 OK time for me to do my prediction. 1. Poole Three heat leaders, 4. Birmingham A lot of people have this team further down and it's all down to their final rider. If they sign an out and out number one they will be capable of making 4th. 10 Wolverhampton Tai will score well and at times Piotr, but where's the backup? Proctor needs to score from the off otherwise plenty of losses. Decent reserves mean they will get results at home but away points will be scarce. No surprise at your totally biased prediction. Not sure you can class Janowski as a heat leader yet. 6.95 is a very low 3rd heat leader average. Like how you rate Birmingham on an assumption. Did you forget Ty Proctor was averaging nearly 9 prior to his injury?? Probably a stronger heat leader than Janowski anyway. I do agree there are plenty of question marks over Piotr and how quickly he settles to his new home track, and of course Ricky needs to up his game. Saying that you can look at all line ups and put ifs by them at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 No surprise at your totally biased prediction. Not sure you can class Janowski as a heat leader yet. 6.95 is a very low 3rd heat leader average. Still plenty of time on his side to improve on that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Still plenty of time on his side to improve on that.. Same as so many riders. At the moment on paper he is a weak 3rd heat leader. If he does Poole will be laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Not sure you can class Janowski as a heat leader yet. 6.95 is a very low 3rd heat leader average. I think you're a bit confused champ. I've just had a quick check and I can only see one third heat leader with a higher average than Janowski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 As I said before if your main reserve get injured you goose is cooked no matter who you are under the current rules . I guess people will only understand when this happens to there team . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think you're a bit confused champ. I've just had a quick check and I can only see one third heat leader with a higher average than Janowski. It isn't confusing. The teams are so weakened now there really isn't the points limit available for strong 3rd heat leaders. Only the Stars look to have a strong top 3. I know that the new race format dictates the riding position of the "3 heat leaders". In reality some teams struggle to get 2 decent heat leaders , never mind 3 the way the points limit is so restricted these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) As I said before if your main reserve get injured you goose is cooked no matter who you are under the current rules . I guess people will only understand when this happens to there team .I don't believe many teams will base there season on what there reserves do, say at Swindon if they have Bates and Worrall who is the better.?If they beat they're own level and maybe get a point or to on merit off a second string they would of more than done there job. Edited January 21, 2014 by sidney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 As I said before if your main reserve get injured you goose is cooked no matter who you are under the current rules . I guess people will only understand when this happens to there team . Including Swindon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I don't believe many teams will base there season on what there reserves do, say at Swindon if they have Bates and Worrall who is the better.?If they beat they're own level and maybe get a point or to on merit off a second string they would of more of done there job. Of course they will just like any season reserves will be vital ... Say If Newman get's injured then Poole will have say Smart and Richings or such like meaning they will score next to nothing from reserve and have zero chance of winning the league . As I said your not going really going to see how vital it is intill it happens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Not sure you can class Janowski as a heat leader yet. 6.95 is a very low 3rd heat leader average. It isn't confusing. The teams are so weakened now there really isn't the points limit available for strong 3rd heat leaders. It clearly is confusing for you, as the two above quotes directly contradict each other. The fact remains that, whatever your opinion of him, Janowski is statistically the second strongest third heat leader. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I thought I read somewhere that any injured/unavailable reserves can be replaced by an other rider from the draft as a guest as long as his average is lower? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I thought I read somewhere that any injured/unavailable reserves can be replaced by an other rider from the draft as a guest as long as his average is lower? Not seen that myself but would make sense ..on the flip side if that it's the case it will yet another rule that teams can used to cheat . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 mmm,a easy to understand sport is becoming complex...trying telling newbies the lge pts scoring system!..losing by over/under 6 etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Of course they will just like any season reserves will be vital ... Say If Newman get's injured then Poole will have say Smart and Richings or such like meaning they will score next to nothing from reserve and have zero chance of winning the league . As I said your not going really going to see how vital it is intill it happens Do you really think that if Newman was to get injured Poole would go into the draft or have someone up their sleeve?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 It clearly is confusing for you, as the two above quotes directly contradict each other. The fact remains that, whatever your opinion of him, Janowski is statistically the second strongest third heat leader. If you say. Anyway, the point remains 6.95 for a 3rd heat leader is weak. (which of course means the standard of 3rd heat leaders is not much better than a good 2nd string for virtually all teams) - as i quantified by saying there really is only the points limit for 2 heat leaders (genuine heat leaders) should you choose to go down the top heavy route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Do you really think that if Newman was to get injured Poole would go into the draft or have someone up their sleeve?. I know it is Poole but the rules mentioned that the reserves or replacements have to come from the list of Brit riders published Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I know it is Poole but the rules mentioned that the reserves or replacements have to come from the list of Brit riders published We'll see & that goes for how they get rid of Smart as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy jimmy Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Poole, Kings Lynn are strong contenders for the top 4. Coventry probably up there with them. Fourth spot between BV, Swindon and Eastbourne. Leicester looking weakest. Birmingham and Lakeside lower mid table, and the unknown quantity is Wolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 We'll see & that goes for how they get rid of Smart as well. Its just a matter of WHEN Smart is given the axe. No doubt a `re-viewed` list will suddenly appear with an Aussie on there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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