Islander15 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 After today's AGM the club withdrew from the league, BUT have until January 31st to rejoin. They need £20k for a new air fence and have so far raised just over £9k, so a lot to do, but speedway community don't let this club fold! It may be the team that I support, but surely losing any side is disastrous, so dig deep please. http://www.gofundme.com/iow-air-fence DONATE!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephantman Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 So the chickens are coming home to roost! Do they really need a new air fence or are they been forced to buy a new air fence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Central Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 So the chickens are coming home to roost! Do they really need a new air fence or are they been forced to buy a new air fence? It is my understanding that there are no more 2nd hand air fences left on the market so they have to buy a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 So the chickens are coming home to roost! Do they really need a new air fence or are they been forced to buy a new air fence? Move on, for your own sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 It is my understanding that there are no more 2nd hand air fences left on the market so they have to buy a new one. Don't think that was his point. He has a bee in his bonnet about air fence safety compared to other fences. Everyone has long since stopped humouring him with a reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephantman Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Move on, for your own sake. I have moved on. Still waiting to see some independent evidence that shows Air Fences are safer than any other type of fence at every track operating (because imposing them as a requirement says that they are). You really don't have that evidence do you? One size never fits all! Don't think that was his point. He has a bee in his bonnet about air fence safety compared to other fences. Everyone has long since stopped humouring him with a reply I don't need your input Oldace; the only thing I have ever questioned is the lack of evidence to show that Air Fences are safer than other fences in every instance. This is not proven and for some reason a number of posters believe this is something I shouldn't question. Well tough really if I think something is amiss I'm the sort of pain in the b/side who will keep asking. Apologies if that offends. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) 20k? Haven't Sky just agreed a new deal? Surely that'll cover the 20k easily. The IoW could then "rent" the air fence off the BSPA so after say 10 years the airfence is paid for. Owing to the fact the IoW have 9k they have paid the rent for 4.5 years already. Edited December 11, 2013 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I have moved on. Still waiting to see some independent evidence that shows Air Fences are safer than any other type of fence at every track operating (because imposing them as a requirement says that they are). You really don't have that evidence do you? One size never fits all! I don't need your input Oldace; the only thing I have ever questioned is the lack of evidence to show that Air Fences are safer than other fences in every instance. This is not proven and for some reason a number of posters believe this is something I shouldn't question. Well tough really if I think something is amiss I'm the sort of pain in the b/side who will keep asking. Apologies if that offends. I am sure it has been discussed, but who is insisting on the compulsory use of AF's? Is it the promoters, riders, insurance companies or some health and safety executive? Obviously rider safety is of paramount importance. Just wondering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted December 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Whether air fences make it safer or not, that is the rule and that's what needs paying for! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 20k? Haven't Sky just agreed a new deal? Surely that'll cover the 20k easily. The IoW could then "rent" the air fence off the BSPA so after say 10 years the airfence is paid for. Owing to the fact the IoW have 9k they have paid the rent for 4.5 years already. That would be totally unfair on all the other clubs who have paid upfront for their fences IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 That would be totally unfair on all the other clubs who have paid upfront for their fences IMO. not really - its just credit - they'd have to pay it back those who have already purchasrd avoid that burdon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 That would be totally unfair on all the other clubs who have paid upfront for their fences IMO. Life is unfair. Surely an extra club able to ride against them means extra income.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 20k? Haven't Sky just agreed a new deal? Surely that'll cover the 20k easily. The IoW could then "rent" the air fence off the BSPA so after say 10 years the airfence is paid for. Owing to the fact the IoW have 9k they have paid the rent for 4.5 years already. Airfences don't last 10 years. Don't see why the BSPA can't give them an interest free loan over 2 or 3 years though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten years after Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I have moved on. Still waiting to see some independent evidence that shows Air Fences are safer than any other type of fence at every track operating (because imposing them as a requirement says that they are). You really don't have that evidence do you? One size never fits all! I don't need your input Oldace; the only thing I have ever questioned is the lack of evidence to show that Air Fences are safer than other fences in every instance. This is not proven and for some reason a number of posters believe this is something I shouldn't question. Well tough really if I think something is amiss I'm the sort of pain in the b/side who will keep asking. Apologies if that offends. Ask Jason Crump the day Gollub put him into the air fence in the Swedish GP and he somehow got up and won the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I am sure it has been discussed, but who is insisting on the compulsory use of AF's? Is it the promoters, riders, insurance companies or some health and safety executive? Obviously rider safety is of paramount importance. Just wondering? It was announced in the spring that the SCB had sent a letter to all British promoters that APDs were to be compulsory at all British meetings from 2014, whether they were FIM meetings or not. To my knowledge, the contents of the letter have not been made public. My guess, and that's all it is, is that it has been done to prevent future litigation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Potter 2 Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Ask Jason Crump the day Gollub put him into the air fence in the Swedish GP and he somehow got up and won the final. Ask Luke Priest when he went under the air-fence at Stoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I have moved on. Still waiting to see some independent evidence that shows Air Fences are safer than any other type of fence at every track operating (because imposing them as a requirement says that they are). You really don't have that evidence do you? One size never fits all! Yes, I have seen it, and I implied that on another thread, But hey ho. I read the document and passed it back to it's keeper. "not really - its just credit - they'd have to pay it back" Credit loans were offered by Paul Ackroyd, of the Riders Benevolent Fund, to pay for the new fences, and some teams including Redcar have taken advantage of a low interest loan. Ask Luke Priest when he went under the air-fence at Stoke. Are you saying he wouldn't have been hurt with no air fence, or are you aware that comments were made at the time regarding the fixing of the fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I feel sorry for the Elephant. Merrick fencing and trellis suppliers Ltd are going to have to close their Yorkshire depot because of this carry on!!! Good luck IOW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephantman Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 It was announced in the spring that the SCB had sent a letter to all British promoters that APDs were to be compulsory at all British meetings from 2014, whether they were FIM meetings or not. To my knowledge, the contents of the letter have not been made public. My guess, and that's all it is, is that it has been done to prevent future litigation. That argument would hold water if these things had been independently tested and a risk assessment done at every location they are to be installed at. Patently this has not happened. The more likely scenario is that there will be litigation over injuries caused where these fences have been poorly designed or installed. I feel sorry for the Elephant. Merrick fencing and trellis suppliers Ltd are going to have to close their Yorkshire depot because of this carry on!!! Good luck IOW. I always thought forums were for serious debate. yet many of you want to shut down the discussions on this serious issue. It is clear from a number of posts that injuries have been made worse by poorly installed or failing air fences. Proper research and accreditation may have prevented this. Yet you champions of rider safety don't want to ask why or what can make things better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Crew Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'm more saddened that its the fans who are asked to put there hands in there pockets yet again, and time after time the poor folk on the terraces are asked to dig deep on top of increased admission prices. Might sound harsh but if a club cannot afford an air fence then bye, and if we end up with no tracks left so be it, its the end of speedway, the paying public are taken for mugs. The only times fans should be approached is for the SRBF, end of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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