Trees Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Mum, Dad and two youngsters over sixteen and still in education. Yes - I can certainly understand how cost "enters people's head". Especially in these times of austerity. What an odd comment for you to make. Don't youngsters do paper rounds/Saturday jobs anymore? That's how I used to pay for my speedway! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Don't youngsters do paper rounds/Saturday jobs anymore? That's how I used to pay for my speedway! kks does. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJK86 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 does people just see a nite at speedway as 15minutes? that's pretty sad...... you drink your pint in 40 seconds or do you get your monies worth and make it last 2 hours?? Well what else is on offer at speedway then except 15 minutes of speedway, i think £15 should be the maximum a promotion can charge and maybe a home meeting every two weeks may help people afford also. I go to Ice Hockey and get much much more value for money, i even take part in shirt off back raffle where if you win you choose favourite player and get his shirt and photo taken with player and they also do 50/50 draw where again you choose favourite player to hand you cash and photo taken as well, they involve fans in what is happening on and off the ice. But i still go speedway because i love it but that love certainly gets tested from time to time when stood around waiting for something to happen, sometimes it is just crap and hard to justify the cost each week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 its a social event, just like any other hobby.....when you go ten pin bowling for goodness sake, you probably get 3 minutes at most actually bowling!!!... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJK86 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 its a social event, just like any other hobby.....when you go ten pin bowling for goodness sake, you probably get 3 minutes at most actually bowling!!!... ten pin bowling is a social event with friends not a hobby unless you take it serious. Glad your not a promoter, the place would be shut in five minutes ! going on your posts this is what your track would be like £16 to get in no way of improving fans relationship with club you would just expect us to turn up get drunk and watch 15 minutes of action. I don't go to speedway to socialise with people, i go to watch SPEEDWAY and support the team ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 omg...enjoy your poundland shopping!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJK86 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 omg...enjoy your poundland shopping!! your argument beaten, that was easier than i thought ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 you obv wanted an argument then? how much would you expect to pay to watch an elite match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Well what else is on offer at speedway then except 15 minutes of speedway, i think £15 should be the maximum a promotion can charge and maybe a home meeting every two weeks may help people afford also. I go to Ice Hockey and get much much more value for money, i even take part in shirt off back raffle where if you win you choose favourite player and get his shirt and photo taken with player and they also do 50/50 draw where again you choose favourite player to hand you cash and photo taken as well, they involve fans in what is happening on and off the ice. But i still go speedway because i love it but that love certainly gets tested from time to time when stood around waiting for something to happen, sometimes it is just crap and hard to justify the cost each week. I guess your club doesn't do any of those things then?! Do you not get a chance to go in the pits either or meet the riders after the meeting or be part of the supporters club? etc etc ...and I thought Sheffield were one of the progressive clubs?!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJK86 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 you obv wanted an argument then? how much would you expect to pay to watch an elite match? no, i was challenging your argument/opinion/thought whatever you would like to call it. and all you can come back with is some petty poundland remark which is pointless and adds nothing to the debate except maybe you think i shop there lol I pay whatever price is on odd trip to Belle Vue but it would not be unreasonable to cap all speedway at £15 maximum, it is a fair price, anything over that to a lot of people is off putting specially when it is every week. A lot of promoters have your train of thought, just expect fans to turn up so track stays open instead of putting effort in to create a good overall product. I guess your club doesn't do any of those things then?! Do you not get a chance to go in the pits either or meet the riders after the meeting or be part of the supporters club? etc etc ...and I thought Sheffield were one of the progressive clubs?!! well the raffle is crap, they don't exactly advertise the chance to go in pits or to go on centre green etc Sheffield stopped being progressive years ago, hopefully that changes now with new promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 £15?..you clearly never organised any event..you really think you could run a club with that price and 800 through a turnstile?.. you smoke? drink? have satellite tv? petrol in car?..just what do you want for £15 in 2014? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJK86 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 £15?..you clearly never organised any event..you really think you could run a club with that price and 800 through a turnstile?.. you smoke? drink? have satellite tv? petrol in car?..just what do you want for £15 in 2014? you really do not get it do you ??? Speedway is competing against a lot of other sports and activities and there is a reason for only 800 through turnstile, not enough on offer compared to elsewhere !!!! and like you said 2014 we expect more than just an update from past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I don't get it?.......I get it exactly!.....trust me, I come across comments like yours every single week...I put on events very very regular..the times I get people complain about what they see, always come from the ones with freebie tickets!.. the ones who want something for nothing...if you think £15 is expensive, god help the future of speedway in Britain!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJK86 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I don't get it?.......I get it exactly!.....trust me, I come across comments like yours every single week...I put on events very very regular..the times I get people complain about what they see, always come from the ones with freebie tickets!.. the ones who want something for nothing...if you think £15 is expensive, god help the future of speedway in Britain!! £15 a WEEK is expensive for the product on show ! I don't get freebie tickets, i work hell of a lot of hours but for price i expect more and at other places i get better value for money, simples ! but i still go speedway because i love it but it is not me your trying to convince to come it is the floaters who pick and choose and the ones who have never been then they go home disappointed with what they paid for. The only people who can help British Speedway is the promoters, try to do the right things and fans might just be happy but if you just expect them to show up then your onto a loser. The price goes up because not enough are turning up so they cover costs of die hards but even them turn away at somepoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 how much would you expect to pay to watch a world boxing champion? £300? he could go down in 1st punch! wheres the VALUE FOR MONEY? you pay for what you choose...simples!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockney Rebel Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Whether Speedway is worth £5-£10-£15 or even £20 to watch is purely down to how much YOU enjoy it. I personally am happy to pay £16 -£17 for a speedway meeting whereas I wouldn't pay a fiver to watch a footbal match in any league and you would have to pay me a considerable sum to watch a cricket match. The entrance fee is determined by how much it costs to run a meeting and with riders earning a good, well deserved, wage and other costs, these costs must be covered or there will be no Speedway. Of course we would all like it to be cheaper but unless there is a Multi million pound sponsorship in the pipeline for each club I'm afraid it won't happen. To me fiteen minutes of Speedway for £16/17 is far better value for money than any other sport. That's the bottom line. If YOU think it's worth it then it IS worth it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 how much would you expect to pay to watch a world boxing champion? £300? he could go down in 1st punch! wheres the VALUE FOR MONEY? you pay for what you choose...simples!! Or £40- £60 to watch a group kicking a bag of air about for 90 mins and a result of 0-0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJK86 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Or £40- £60 to watch a group kicking a bag of air about for 90 mins and a result of 0-0 like i said it is not me you are trying to convince to go speedway, it is people who don't go and i can see as others can also why people do not go, lack of value for money. Under all your theories once all of us have died it wont be sustainable, there will be no speedway ! And everyone loves different sports for various reasons, fact is Speedway does not have the support and promoters have to provide more to try and bring new fans in, not just be happy with die hards turning up because one day we will be all gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 £15?..you clearly never organised any event..you really think you could run a club with that price and 800 through a turnstile?.. you smoke? drink? have satellite tv? petrol in car?..just what do you want for £15 in 2014? Where your argument falls down Colin is that Speedway Markets itself as a FAMILY Sport. I am lucky these days - I am a Pensioner and can take advantage of Concessions. However were I a younger man with a Family to take to the Speedway - I would have to think very hard whether to take them. There is not the money out there these days as there was in the past. People in some cases have to make up their minds whether to 'Heat' or 'Eat'. Food Banks proliferate. In that kind of climate you have to make Speedway AFFORDABLE. I, as I have said, am lucky, I can afford my Speedway. I am only too aware that there are those who cannot. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pedaler Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Where your argument falls down Colin is that Speedway Markets itself as a FAMILY Sport. The major flaw with your point is that you are under an impression that speedway actually markets itself. May I ask where? To whom? Who are these great marketeers who are out there promoting this sport? The BSPA? GoSpeed? If you said BSI, I'd stop and rub my chin for a second or two but where do BSI use the "family" as a part of the image that they are fostering? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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