manchesterpaul Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) Awww! my hopes were raised when i saw two new pages had been added to this important thread since i last looked only to find it consists of everyone Googling and Wiki-ing Ping Pong! lol. Gee! is this what the off-season forums are reduced to? (says me with absolutely nothing sparkling or informative to add myself) Ok on second thoughts i do actually have one musing on the matter while we wait for news, i thought it was a good point a while back when someone (a rider?) mentioned that not knowing whether they will be appearing on Sky television is affecting potential sponsorship deals, and also will likely cause a backlog of racing suits needing to be prepared. I'm wondering now though if maybe the riders have since been informed there is a deal in place but not to go public with that knowledge? Edited January 6, 2014 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Awww! my hopes were raised when i saw two new pages had been added to this important thread since i last looked only to find it consists of everyone Googling and Wiki-ing Ping Pong! lol. Gee! is this what the off-season forums are reduced to? (says me with absolutely nothing sparkling or informative to add myself) Ok on second thoughts i do actually have one musing on the matter while we wait for news, i thought it was a good point a while back when someone (a rider?) mentioned that not knowing whether they will be appearing on Sky television is affecting potential sponsorship deals, and also will likely cause a backlog of racing suits needing to be prepared. I'm wondering now though if maybe the riders have since been informed there is a deal in place but not to go public with that knowledge? Yes we need to get back to the REAL debate having sorted out the "pings from the pongs!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 What about Wiff Waff? isnt that just a chinese bloke talking about the people on jeremy kyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 table tennis sold its soul to television 15 years aso when the traditional game of up to 21 pts was replaced by games to just 11 (to give more big points)...bats if you ask me and now its 'ping pong' which is back to bats with no sponge...so they've sold their rubber soul... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 http://www.worldchampionshipofpingpong.net/news/video_ping_pong_the_basics.htm This explains the differences between Ping Pong and Table Tennis. Barry Hearn has introduced this tournament in an attempt to make the sport more spectator friendly by reducing the spin and speed impact of the sponge rubber bats currently used in table tennis by replacing them with standard bats containing a thin sheet of sandpaper rather than one of unlimited combinations of sponge and rubber pimples of different characteristics, thickness, speed and spin which have reduced the rallies so much in the modern game. The idea is that longer rallies will be better entertainment for spectators and players will need to rely on their skill rather than relying on what the bat can do. Good luck to him I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 given the delay in the announcement of a new sky speedway deal, it seems this current rally may have to last a while yet. So, like Wimbledon where they reduced the court speed, why can't they look at the TT playing surface? After all we wouldn't ask Murray to play with a wooden racket would we?.. I may be wrong but can't see this lasting past March when the 7 days a week elite league deal will kick it off the schedules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 So basically at the end of all this.. its not an 'entirely different sport' as Tsunami claimed in his attack on Gustix. Its table tennis with different bats. The Ping-Pong is just the Hearn marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Yep - same sport / different bats. Plus a joker style double points option using a different coloured helmet cover ball!! Has Barry Hearn ever been involved in speedway promotion? If not, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 So basically at the end of all this.. its not an 'entirely different sport' as Tsunami claimed in his attack on Gustix. Its table tennis with different bats. The Ping-Pong is just the Hearn marketing. It isn't a different sport in the slightest. It is simply table tennis with a bit of razzmatazz and a few tweaks thrown in It is like saying Premier League Speedway and Elite League speedway are entirely different sports because a few rules and technical differences exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 not quite. it's a pretty different technique to play (especially attacking shots) where achieving any sort of topspin with merely pimples is hard work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pedaler Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Has Barry Hearn ever been involved in speedway promotion? If not, why not? Because the BSPA know it all better. innit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Barry Hearn has introduced this tournament in an attempt to make the sport more spectator friendly by reducing the spin and speed impact of the sponge rubber bats currently used in table tennis by replacing them with standard bats containing a thin sheet of sandpaper rather than one of unlimited combinations of sponge and rubber pimples of different characteristics, thickness, speed and spin which have reduced the rallies so much in the modern game. The idea is that longer rallies will be better entertainment for spectators and players will need to rely on their skill rather than relying on what the bat can do. Good luck to him I say. So Barry Hearn has spun this by reducing the spin. I don't know if I'm dizzy or not now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 not quite. it's a pretty different technique to play (especially attacking shots) where achieving any sort of topspin with merely pimples is hard work... In the same way the tennis requires different skills on the various surfaces 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) So basically at the end of all this.. its not an 'entirely different sport' as Tsunami claimed in his attack on Gustix. Its table tennis with different bats. The Ping-Pong is just the Hearn marketing. Different bats, different balls , changes in the scoring, different technique and a separately registered sport, but YES, its just the same as Table Tennis. Edited January 6, 2014 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) I'm sure that having been made aware of the facts Tsunami, when comparing Ping Pong to Table Tennis people would conclude that it's the same only different! Edited January 6, 2014 by Bryn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Table Tennis by any other name is - errrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmm - Table Tennis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Table Tennis by any other name is - errrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmm - Table Tennis. Unless it is Ping Pong of course, Ian . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 When there is a change of server does it become Pong Ping and does this count as a 3rd derivative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelle Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Has Barry Hearn ever been involved in speedway promotion? If not, why not? Because IF he was interested he'd want to be incharge and the Bozo's Running the sport wouldn't have that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike1944 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 One wonders if this thread is discussing Speedway Sky Sports New Deal or Ping Pong/table tennis or whatever. Be nice to get back on topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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