orion Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Yes but you have not got the knowledge my friend, out of all the Robins fans i know Hagonsshocker (ect) the fans i know they know they're stuff I am afraid you do not fit in that category you talk well though.! Harsh but true?! Sorry ? but what has that got to do with the old being fairer than the new rule ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) Sorry ? but what has that got to do with the old being fairer than the new rule ?Nothing really but you don't seem to add anything in my book no substance, certainly Sarcasm and even on other sport topics very little really such a shame.!Also did you say or did i imagine it that Worrall and Bates were no hopers? Have a think before you comment that would be a wise option. Edited December 7, 2013 by sidney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Nothing really but you don't seem to add anything in my book no substance, certainly Sarcasm and even on other sport topics very little really such a shame.!Also did you say or did i imagine it that Worrall and Bates were no hopers? Have a think before you comment that would be a wise option. Yet again what has any of the above got to do with the debate about the new and the old rule ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Yet again what has any of the above got to do with the debate about the new and the old rule ?What is the point again as i have told Witcher it is all to do with a opinion, this total tosh of being fact makes me laugh the old rule was far from perfect but the rule now in place for me makes the sport look like a circus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 What is the point again as i have told Witcher it is all to do with a opinion, this total tosh of being fact makes me laugh the old rule was far from perfect but the rule now in place for me makes the sport look like a circus. So what is your opinion of why it is ? why did the old rule not make it look like a circus ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skthecat Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 I think that some sort of tactical rule is needed, I personally don't enjoy seeing any team get totally drubbed..... especially if they have a rider injured/blows a bike or a team suffers at the hands of a dodgy exclusion or two early on, it can wreck a meeting as a spectacle... I did, as a youngster run many a "play" meeting and tactical substitutes were used copiously to closen scores.... Perhaps the tactical needs modifying so its used but at some risk to the team using it.....? Put the tactical rider off a 15 meter handicap or something, or only get double points for the race win, so he would get only 2 for second, 1 for third.. so the maximum score would be an 8-1 but no 5-4 etc....... Trying to be serious with this, as in earlier part of my post, it keeps a portion of the crowd interested if getting a bit of a wupping for whatever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybikespeedway Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Reading all this Crap Has made me realise Why My Wife Stopped Going to Speedway, She got fed up with the bickering on the terraces, and said why cant they just enjoy their sport, and has never been since 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Reading all this Crap Has made me realise Why My Wife Stopped Going to Speedway, She got fed up with the bickering on the terraces, and said why cant they just enjoy their sport, and has never been since 2006 My irony meter just exploded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 I've asked my five year old and she reckons 8 is bigger than three too. I think she's a little young to distinguish between fact and opinion, but she does think it would be silly for anyone to think 3 is bigger thsn 8. Just saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 What is the point again as i have told Witcher it is all to do with a opinion, this total tosh of being fact makes me laugh the old rule was far from perfect but the rule now in place for me makes the sport look like a circus. No it isn't opinion. I am glad that the assertion that 8 is more than 3 makes you laugh. I am glad that the assertion that 6 is less than 10 makes you laugh. You ridicule yourself Sidney, but you do provide great entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 What is the point again as i have told Witcher it is all to do with a opinion, this total tosh of being fact makes me laugh the old rule was far from perfect but the rule now in place for me makes the sport look like a circus. In truth, you are anything but alone in that opinion. The point is though is that in terms of the scores of a meeting the old TS rule had more impact. The other thing is the cost, because most riders to my knowledge (and I stand to be corrected here) do TR rides for the same pay (they don't get paid for 6 points). If your reserve is on £40 a point and your No 1 on £90, putting your No 1 in as a TS could cost £270 every time he does it. Over a season, that's tens of thousands of pounds across the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 No it isn't opinion. I am glad that the assertion that 8 is more than 3 makes you laugh. I am glad that the assertion that 6 is less than 10 makes you laugh. You ridicule yourself Sidney, but you do provide great entertainment. I actually believe you are box office, i don't believe i have ever spoke to anyone else that is so cock sure and self righteous as yourself a massive weakness on your part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 No it isn't opinion. I am glad that the assertion that 8 is more than 3 makes you laugh. I am glad that the assertion that 6 is less than 10 makes you laugh. You ridicule yourself Sidney, but you do provide great entertainment. He sure is, he cracks me up when he tries to put people down because he can't come up with an answer ...all the classics have come out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 The old tactical rule usually meant the away number 1 riding in heat 8 . Which for us Glasgow fans in the 80.s it gave us another race to cheer Steve Lawson because we never had much else . Though i dont recall the old tactical rule ever having much bearing on the result like it can do now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) I actually believe you are box office, i don't believe i have ever spoke to anyone else that is so cock sure and self righteous as yourself a massive weakness on your part. Because i am right. I am cock sure that 8 is more than 3. My 2 year old niece knows that. The old tactical rule usually meant the away number 1 riding in heat 8 . Which for us Glasgow fans in the 80.s it gave us another race to cheer Steve Lawson because we never had much else . Though i dont recall the old tactical rule ever having much bearing on the result like it can do now . I assume you are claiming it didn't make any difference as you were a poor team who was going to lose anyway. So you replaced your no 7 in heat 8, who was likely to score zero. In comes Lawson and wins. You have gained 3 from his win, plus the opposition has scored 2 less. Your no 2 has scored 1 less. Gain equals 4 pts. However now, Lawson could not even go in heat 8. He would have to take on better riders in a heat of his own, as well as having to be 10 behind, not 6. The maximum he could gain if he won the race is 3 pts. The opposition lose none. So your memory is irrelevant, the old rule effected matches more and on a more frequent basis. Once again that is stone cold FACT, not opinion. Edited December 8, 2013 by BWitcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Because i am right. I am cock sure that 8 is more than 3. My 2 year old niece knows that. I assume you are claiming it didn't make any difference as you were a poor team who was going to lose anyway. So you replaced your no 7 in heat 8, who was likely to score zero. In comes Lawson and wins. You have gained 3 from his win, plus the opposition has scored 2 less. Your no 2 has scored 1 less. Gain equals 4 pts. However now, Lawson could not even go in heat 8. He would have to take on better riders in a heat of his own, as well as having to be 10 behind, not 6. The maximum he could gain if he won the race is 3 pts. The opposition lose none. So your memory is irrelevant, the old rule effected matches more and on a more frequent basis. Once again that is stone cold FACT, not opinion. You are always right, and how patronising are you! in the week you treated Catseyes with disdain no opology and i can't see him/her coming back on here anytime soon.Why do you have to belittle people? with me i could not care less when you debate it is not always about being right you can never quite grasp that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 disdain no opology :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 You are always right, and how patronising are you! in the week you treated Catseyes with disdain no opology and i can't see him/her coming back on here anytime soon.Why do you have to belittle people? with me i could not care less when you debate it is not always about being right you can never quite grasp that. It's about being an adult Sidney and learning. That is what life is all about. You refuse to learn and admit where you are wrong, that is your decision. You then try and blame others. You've declared someone as self righteous for believing that 3 is less than 8. In doing so, you've declared pretty much the entire human civilisation as being self righteous. That's your decison. Next time you buy something for £12 and you give them a £20 note and you get £3 change I assume you will be happy. After all, it would be self righteous of them to give you £8 change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 ....disdain no opology....... I think some on here should take a look at this and see how you get on. It will keep you quiet for a few minutes and you may even learn something. http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=75387&do=findComment&comment=2381481 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 The big difference with a speedway rider and a footballer is that a footballer get paid a wage by his club. The speedway rider is self employed and has to make his earnings in a different way. If he needs to ride for 3 different clubs that is up to him alone to decide. So any promoter that wants his services if he is good enough will take that ride offered to him. But as someone has said it makes a bit of a mockery when a top Elite League rider goes down to the Premier League to race. That League should be used for young riders that have now got better than riding in The National League. It must rule out quite a number of places in the Premier League with Elite League rider claiming those places. If they wish to ride more races then they should go to clubs abroad, or race for another Elite League club that are looking for a replacement due to injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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