pugwash Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 How did Ainslie get on in the World Championships in this year of 'sporting achievement'? Ah.. he didn't did he. He the black guy that does the cooking? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Darts is a GAME - everyone knows that. It isn't a Sport. Sportsmen are supposed to FIT - not FAT. :rolleyes: John Daly,Craig Stadler,Angel Cabrera, and not forgetting Bill Werbenick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 John Daly,Craig Stadler,Angel Cabrera, and not forgetting Bill Werbenick I've no doubt those who dismiss Darts as a sport would say likewise about Snooker. As you have highlighted and I mentioned earlier, it would also mean dismissing Golf as a 'sport' too. You could also throw Archery, Shooting in there as well to be 'dismissed'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Shooting in there as well to be 'dismissed'. Some would claim that huntin', shootin' and fishin' are the only true sports... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horneymikh Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Phil Taylor was runner up in 2010 SPOTY, Steve Davis has been nominated multiple times and has won it, suggests the BBC think darts and snooker are sports... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Phil Taylor was runner up in 2010 SPOTY, Steve Davis has been nominated multiple times and has won it, suggests the BBC think darts and snooker are sports... Yeah, yeah, yeah. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Yeah, yeah, yeah. :rolleyes: Do you class Golf as a sport WK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Do you class Golf as a sport WK? Yes I do. I don't like Golf - not my scene - but it is definitely a Sport in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) just been discussing spoty on talksport (durham and gough at drivetime).. they both mentioned that they felt tai should have been nominated... small acorns maybe but tai's stock is rising in some media outlets so maybe there is hope for greater coverage of him (and the sport) in the mainstream media going forwards..? Edited November 28, 2013 by mikebv 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Yes I do. I don't like Golf - not my scene - but it is definitely a Sport in my book. How so? It doesn't fit what you described as a sport earlier? Fat people can play it and be very succesful at it, so why is Golf different to Darts? I assume archery isn't a sport in your eyes either? Edited November 28, 2013 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 How so? It doesn't fit what you described as a sport earlier? Fat people can play it and be very succesful at it, so why is Golf different to Darts? I assume archery isn't a sport in your eyes either? Archery is DEFINITELY A Sport. Where would we have been without Longbowmen at Agincourt, Crecy, Poitiers etc. We have a great tradition in Archery. You also have to be reasonably fit to play Golf if you are going to walk round eighteen holes. BW - it's just my opinion. I feel the same about Snooker, Pool etc. as I do about Darts. None of them are, shall we say, 'proper' Sports. Should you say they are Games - I would agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Although fans are distressed at BBC’s ignorance, failure to place a speedway rider in the nominations for their sports thingy. Look at it this way: Whereas not many outside speedway would really know Tai Woffinden’s existence; not many outside most of the 10 nominees’ circles will know much about them either. I know I don’t. Edited November 28, 2013 by moxey63 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 There are some borderline sports.Speed skating is deffo a sport,but ice dancing?One week they can do a performance in the Olympics and it is sport.The next it could be Holiday on Ice with the same performance and it is entertainment.Boxing is obviously a sport.Even womens boxing is a sport.But take off their tops and it seems topless womens boxing is entertainment.Is dancing a sport?That is the big question for me.If tango and ballroom dancing aren't sports why is dancing on ice a sport?And what about bodybuilding?As they do sort of dance on stage.......Not sure what it all has to do with anything,but it is an interesting debate lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 There are some borderline sports.Speed skating is deffo a sport,but ice dancing?One week they can do a performance in the Olympics and it is sport.The next it could be Holiday on Ice with the same performance and it is entertainment.Boxing is obviously a sport.Even womens boxing is a sport.But take off their tops and it seems topless womens boxing is entertainment.Is dancing a sport?That is the big question for me.If tango and ballroom dancing aren't sports why is dancing on ice a sport?And what about bodybuilding?As they do sort of dance on stage.......Not sure what it all has to do with anything,but it is an interesting debate lol Quite agree. Synchronised Swimming for goodness sake. It's OK in the Movies - ask Busby Berkeley. ............ can I really remember that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Quite agree. Synchronised Swimming for goodness sake. It's OK in the Movies - ask Busby Berkeley. ............ can I really remember that? What about weight lifting? Or marathon running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macinter Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Apologies if anyone has already pointed this out but the Oxford Dictionary describes sport as :-an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. Which would appear to put darts and snooker on thinnish ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 There are some borderline sports.Speed skating is deffo a sport,but ice dancing?One week they can do a performance in the Olympics and it is sport.The next it could be Holiday on Ice with the same performance and it is entertainment.Boxing is obviously a sport.Even womens boxing is a sport.But take off their tops and it seems topless womens boxing is entertainment.Is dancing a sport?That is the big question for me.If tango and ballroom dancing aren't sports why is dancing on ice a sport?And what about bodybuilding?As they do sort of dance on stage.......Not sure what it all has to do with anything,but it is an interesting debate lol You crack me up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Apologies if anyone has already pointed this out but the Oxford Dictionary describes sport as :-an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. Which would appear to put darts and snooker on thinnish ice. I rest my Case your honour. Thank you for that macinter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Apologies if anyone has already pointed this out but the Oxford Dictionary describes sport as :-an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. Which would appear to put darts and snooker on thinnish ice. Which comment could turn us to considering ice hockey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Well I'd strongly disagree that cricket is an elitist sport, and never has been. Working men have always played with the local squires on the village green and at county level, even if they were classified as 'gentlemen' and 'players' with separate changing rooms in the past. Cricket is followed by all sorts, and frankly I don't think it actually gets enough coverage in relation to its popularity because the media can no longer afford to send journalists to cover matches for days at a time. Rugby (Union) is also pretty widely played around the country by all sorts, and whilst the top-level was traditionally dominated by ex-public schoolboys because of its 'amateur' nature, I'm not sure it's so much the case these days. If it is, it's because most people get introduced to rugby at school (unlike football which kids seem to play naturally) and it still tends to be the former grammar schools where it's predominantly played. I think the coverage of Rugby Union is about right on balance. By contrast, Rugby League has most definitely never been a toffs' sport and that still got a lot of coverage on the BBC in the 1980s if I recall. It's not on there now because it sold itself to Murdoch for a vast largesse, and has been heavily marketed (still with limited success) ever since. Admittedly the BBC seemed intent on confirming every southerner's prejudices about flat caps and whippets through their employment of Eddie Waring and latterly Ray French, but the sport certainly got disproportionate coverage in relation to its popularity. The fact that speedway only ever found itself in the company of joke sports like wrestling and canal vaulting on ITV probably says more about the efforts of the speedway authorities than anything else. Of course both Rugby Union and Cricket are played at all levels of society, but that does not mask the fact that they are both cornerstones of public school sports, and as such are a firm part of Britain's social elite's culture. They are very much 'establishment' sports at heart despite involvement at other levels of society and as such have a huge advantage over others.. At my state school they had pretentions of being some kind of quasi public school and so competitive football was banned with only 'rugger', cricket and hockey allowed as team sports so I've really resisted all three sports since. They are important sports but along with football they are allowed to dominate the sporting 'conversation' far too much. As for Rugby League, it is an odd case but the BBC did rely on it as a convenient Saturday afternoon live sport and so, helped by the unintended comic novelty value of Eddie Waring's commentaries it was a major exception to my point but then I was trying to offer a suggestion as to the problems speedway faces, not absolute fact. If only the world were that simple. Anyway, perhaps I should have just posted. "Speedway's face doesn't fit." Quite agree. Synchronised Swimming for goodness sake. It's OK in the Movies - ask Busby Berkeley. ............ can I really remember that? My previous employers long ago decided to ask the IBA if mud wrestling was acceptable as a sport. The answer was "As long as the audience doesn't join in'". Edited November 28, 2013 by rmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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