g13webb Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Premier League Peterborough Ryan Fisher Ales Dryml Lasse Bjerre Ulrich Ostergaard Lewis Blackbird Joe Jacobs Oliver Greenwood = £15.00 Elite League King's Lynn Niels Kristian Iversen Kenneth Bjerre Rory Schlein Nicklas Porsing Robert Lambert Lewis Kerr Lewis Rose = £16.00 I don't believe you'll be seeing better value for money than we will at the Norfolk Arena do you? Up against each other you wouldn't get close home or away and we get that for just an extra £1. That's value When you take the Car Parking into the equation, the costs are very similar, but the product are worlds apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 When you take the Car Parking into the equation, the costs are very similar, but the product are worlds apart. Arrr yes, but that is counteracted by us charging a £1 to sit in a seat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Whatever format they come up with, the fact remains that they are charging Elite prices for a part National & Premier product.This is wrong in my opinion, & i'm happy that Panthers are in the Premier, & charging the product accordingly. I wonder how much they would have charged if changes (NL riders) wasnt made. Its no secret most sides lost money, at least they havent asked the fans to pay any extra. As someone who takes my 12 year old its actually cheaper to attend Brandon this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 £250 for admission, programme, & car park for a minimum of 20 matches is good value in my opinion. Dont know the price of Kings Lynn season tickets, & would be interested to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) £250 for admission, programme, & car park for a minimum of 20 matches is good value in my opinion. Dont know the price of Kings Lynn season tickets, & would be interested to know. £261 for 18 matches. Playoffs and programmes not included. So for the equivalent of £12.50 you get admission, programme, car park and a seat at Peterborough. This figure will reduce with any progress in the cups and/or playoffs. Kings Lynn is equivalent of £14.50 for admission (unsure if they charge for parking). Edited February 9, 2014 by Noodles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 It's a shame they didn't ask TNT as he has seemed to be able to get a format done in days rather than months i think the issue they have is that now clubs have signed teams they can't agree on a format. Teams with top end strength will want to leave them riders until the last few heats and teams with stronger lower orders will be the opposite. They should have agreed a format before signing riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 i think the issue they have is that now clubs have signed teams they can't agree on a format. Teams with top end strength will want to leave them riders until the last few heats and teams with stronger lower orders will be the opposite. They should have agreed a format before signing riders. Also the heat leaders might be wanting to re negotiate their points money now that they know they will have more races against heat leaders and probably a lower points score per meeting. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Also the heat leaders might be wanting to re negotiate their points money now that they know they will have more races against heat leaders and probably a lower points score per meeting. THAT is a distinct possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Oh we really couldn't see that coming could we as it's like turkeys voting for Christmas depending on whether you've gone for a top heavy team or stronger 2nd strings & I said right at the beginning of this thread I couldn't understand how teams could sign riders when they had no idea of the race format. What a joke & I guess it will come down to a flip of a coin for heads or tails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Also the heat leaders might be wanting to re negotiate their points money now that they know they will have more races against heat leaders and probably a lower points score per meeting. TBF, they've almost all signed after the conference when the news come out so they can hardly complain now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Speedway doesn't give a lot of discount for season ticket holders compared to football. Still a good price to watch Elite at Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 TBF, they've almost all signed after the conference when the news come out so they can hardly complain now! But some may not have realized the probable reduction in points they could get.and it took a while to sink in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 But some may not have realized the probable reduction in points they could get.and it took a while to sink in. With most speedway riders, that's a certainty... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Also the heat leaders might be wanting to re negotiate their points money now that they know they will have more races against heat leaders and probably a lower points score per meeting. Of course the promoters may be congratulating themselves on saving more money. There are only 90 points (excluding bonus points and whatever tactical rules/payment may be in place). 12 of those are already locked into the reserve races and therefore at the cheapest rates. I suspect four more heats will have two reserves so that's another 4 points. With so many heat leaders clashing, that's more saving against the highest paid riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 i think the issue they have is that now clubs have signed teams they can't agree on a format. Teams with top end strength will want to leave them riders until the last few heats and teams with stronger lower orders will be the opposite. They should have agreed a format before signing riders.It's always the same over here. The rules should be set for the following season before the current one has finished... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrycuda Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) Seems that modern communication is up the spout ie e-mails. Have posted previously that I have e-mailed the Great Ivory Towers of ACU HeadquartersWood StreetRugbyWarwickshireCV21 2YX which houses both the British Speedway Promoters Association and the Speedway Control Bureau without success over the last seven days. Jon Cook who is Vice Chairman of the BSPA was also contacted by e-mail with regard to heat race format also without reply last seven days. I felt like Boris Grishenko out of the James Bond film Golden Eye (1995) final scene speak to me computer whilst shaking it but then thought about Michael Winner advert calm down dear its only a commercial (Speedway). Have also found this very interesting article by Jon Cook on the Speedwaygp.com site dated Monday 18th November 2013 almost confirming that there will be a change in race heat format for the Elite League 2014 season. Please read this link below correction must read http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/3007/cook-backing-the-brits Me thinks someone or something is in a mucking fuddle or words to that effect. Edited February 9, 2014 by Barrycuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Seems that modern communication is up the spout ie e-mails. Have posted previously that I have e-mailed the Great Ivory Towers of ACU Headquarters Wood Street Rugby Warwickshire CV21 2YX which houses both the British Speedway Promoters Association and the Speedway Control Bureau without success over the last seven days. Jon Cook who is Vice Chairman of the BSPA was also contacted by e-mail with regard to heat race format also without reply last seven days. I felt like Boris Grishenko out of the James Bond film Golden Eye (1995) final scene speak to me computer whilst shaking it but then thought about Michael Winner advert calm down dear its only a commercial (Speedway). Have also found this very interesting article by Jon Cook on the Speedwaygp.com site dated Monday 18th November 2013 almost confirming that there will be a change in race heat format for the Elite League 2014 season. Please read this link below correction must read http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/3007/cook-backing-the-brits Me thinks someone or something is in a mucking fuddle or words to that effect. So what's your problem ? We were told 3 months ago that the reserves would have two protected heats against each other and two against second strings yet we still have the chronic complainers on here worrying about mis-matched riders. All we don't know is the actual riding order of heats. For many seasons now we have seen heats with riders like Ales Dryml going against Darcy Ward or Some PL d/u rider in the same race as Freddie Lindgren but I can't remember anyone coming on here and complaining about the formula. We also saw the No1's going against each other at least twice, and usually three times. We still have 15 heats, the reserves still have four programmed rides, the heatleaders will still meet each other and meet the second strings. Once the race formula is released its hardly going to contain any earth shattering surprises. I think some people ought to get out more. Edited February 10, 2014 by E I Addio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Excellent post E l Addio !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Whatever format they come up with, the fact remains that they are charging Elite prices for a part National & Premier product.This is wrong in my opinion, & i'm happy that Panthers are in the Premier, & charging the product accordingly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 So what's your problem ? We were told 3 months ago that the reserves would have two protected heats against each other and two against second strings yet we still have the chronic complainers on here worrying about mis-matched riders. All we don't know is the actual riding order of heats. For many seasons now we have seen heats with riders like Ales Dryml going against Darcy Ward or Some PL d/u rider in the same race as Freddie Lindgren but I can't remember anyone coming on here and complaining about the formula. We also saw the No1's going against each other at least twice, and usually three times. We still have 15 heats, the reserves still have four programmed rides, the heatleaders will still meet each other and meet the second strings. Once the race formula is released its hardly going to contain any earth shattering surprises. I think some people ought to get out more. If it's so simple why is it taking +3 months to release the confirmed riding order? It's much more than that; what happens when injuries occur, guests or r/r for fixture clashes, calculating fair averages, loss of earnings or when we run out of NL riders? Comparing Ward v Dryml is very different to Ward v Halsey and co. You appear to have a very blinkered view. Speedway should be simple but when the powers that be make a major change without carrying out a complete risk analysis, it inevitably leads to even more confusing and conflicting rules. That's where Speedway is and has been for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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