When Will The New Race Format Be Out & How Can Teams Name Riders When They Don't Know It?

[a4poster]

Hi, following the AGM can or does anyone know the exact heat format for the coming season and the general rules for the meeting regards Tactical Substitutes, Reserve Rides & Golden Doubles.

 

Thanks in advance.

[foamfence]

Hi, following the AGM can or does anyone know the exact heat format for the coming season and the general rules for the meeting regards Tactical Substitutes, Reserve Rides & Golden Doubles.

 

Thanks in advance.

From what I have read, the exact format and rules haven't been finalised yet.

[A ORLOV]

Hi, following the AGM can or does anyone know the exact heat format for the coming season and the general rules for the meeting regards Tactical Substitutes, Reserve Rides & Golden Doubles.

 

Thanks in advance.

To fit in with the need to save costs they are having one heat only, of sixteen laps, with 14 riders in it, then you do not need any TS,RR or GD, simples

Edited November 22, 2013 by A ORLOV

[a4poster]

Thanks for the reply.

 

No doubt we will have to wait to a week before the new season starts before being told!

 

 

[The White Knight]

Hi, following the AGM can or does anyone know the exact heat format for the coming season and the general rules for the meeting regards Tactical Substitutes, Reserve Rides & Golden Doubles.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

Are you trying to wind me up?

[TonyE]

Golden doubles/black and whites etc are on hold pending the outcome of TV negotiations.

[tonyd]

Golden doubles/black and whites etc are on hold pending the outcome of TV negotiations.

 

On hold pending ???? They should have been torn out the rule book and thrown in the bin years ago.

[orion]

Going to be only 3 lap races next year to save on fuel .

[BluPanther]

Going to be only 3 lap races next year to save on fuel .

That's 2 more than really needed at some tracks I could mention..

[Mike.Butler]

this was the format in the BL in 1990:

 

1/2 v 1/2

6/7 v 6/7

5/4 v 5/4

3/6 v 3/7

5/4 v 1/2

1/2 v 3/6

3/6 v 5/4

2/7 v 2/7

5/4 v 3/6

1/2 v 5/4

3/7 v 1/2

1/4 v 3/5

3/5 v 1/4

6/7 v 6/7

nominated

 

in other words the old 13 heat formula + an extra reserve heat + hig scorers.

can't see much wrong with this tbh.

Edited November 24, 2013 by Mike.Butler

[MattK]

That race format would have to be re-jigged if the reserves are only going to race against each other and the opposite team's lowest second strings.

[A ORLOV]

That race format would have to be re-jigged if the reserves are only going to race against each other and the opposite team's lowest second strings.

You would get races with 1 and 3 as they will not be racing against 6 and 7.

Edited November 24, 2013 by A ORLOV

[The White Knight]

And you would get races with 1 and 3 and 3 and 5 as they will not be racing against 6 and 7.

 

 

'Liked' for the Avatar Aleksandr. :approve:

 

Sergei.

[MattK]

You would get races with 1 and 3 as they will not be racing against 6 and 7.

 

Depending on how it is enforced, we may well have to have fixed team spots. So, the highest average rider at 1, second highest at 2, etc. down to 7.

[Crazy robin]

As the title says really but I just can't see how teams are announcing riders when they have no idea of how the heats of a race meeting are going to work.

[MattK]

Two very good questions.

 

It does seem rather strange that teams are signing anyone other than absolutely nailed on riders.

[stevebrum]

Personally speaking i dont really think the format matters all that much, getting the right riders is always key at this early stage.

[MattK]

But if the format is that reserves only race against each other and the oppositions second strings, then this suggests team formats will have to be more rigid.

 

This in turn suggests there will either be a clear advantage of having a strong top three, or a strong bottom two, depending on the heat format.

[stevebrum]

I see it as being 2 reserve races, then second strings & reserves twice, 2 second string races. And then a combination of the top 4 for throughout the rest of the programme. Personally can see the format being pretty similar except maybe heat 2 and 12 being reserve (as eg) and heat 8 and 14 for second strings and reserves (as has been previously but might be more enforced riding positions for this season - ie not putting a heat leader in a race jacket that will get easier rides).

[T.N.T.]

Personally speaking i dont really think the format matters all that much, getting the right riders is always key at this early stage.

 

 

Of course it matters as a top heavy team may just be the wrong set up to go with and a more balanced top five could be more benefiial. However with the reserves having two races together and their other rides against second strings, the draft picks are going to be even more vital to get right.

 

 

As the reserves are having easier races, the #5 race jacket will no longer need to be a big hitter as he no longers has to partner a reserve while the second strings will possibly now have two slightly easier rides which will make a more balanced team better off.

 

 

Personally I feel that a team with an 8 point #1 and four riders around the 6 average will be hard to beat and if they have two reserves getting heat advantages in their heats they should be title contenders.