Elite League Draft Riders

[foamfence]

Quite ....young brits who ride and can step up to the El are a dime a dozen .

More fixtures, more continuity and more Brits. That is a step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned. You are obviously a glass half empty man. Anyway those that I'm aware of are keen to have a go at it, I doubt there will be many (if any) who turn down the chance.

[Tsunami]

 

 

WHY ? ....... Maybe because they chaarge virtually the same for a nghts racing as most EL tracks but pay considerablt less out on wages and would rather pay a total novice from Hugary, Argentina or Southern Peru than a 17 year old that lives a short bus route away from the track.

 

 

 

But the PL does not get a £90k bung.

[Crazy robin]

From what I was told today by a National League rider they might have their backs up against the wall if they think they will have a host of riders taking up the chance.

 

It appears most that he knows are simply not interested.

[Jonny the spud]

Maybe he doesn't know the right ones ?

[Crazy robin]

Maybe he doesn't know the right ones ?

He knows a few & they're not interested & he usually is not far off the truth.

 

Guess we will have to wait & see as surely they wouldn't have assumed all would fall into plan without doing some enquires before?.

 

Would they?????????

[foamfence]

He knows a few & they're not interested & he usually is not far off the truth.

 

Guess we will have to wait & see as surely they wouldn't have assumed all would fall into plan without doing some enquires before?.

 

Would they?????????

I know a few....And they are ALL interested.

[Phil The Ace]

I know of at least 8 riders wanting to ride. And I bet there's another 12 willing

[mrcts]

From what I was told today by a National League rider they might have their backs up against the wall if they think they will have a host of riders taking up the chance.It appears most that he knows are simply not interested.

Great to hear that ambition is still alive and kicking!

[junior fan]

There is a difference between being ambitious and simply not being able to afford to do it for that money.A lot of time the guarantee is all you will receive as payment , not nearly enough to keep a bike competitive even without the odd mishap.

Junior

[mrcts]

There is a difference between being ambitious and simply not being able to afford to do it for that money.A lot of time the guarantee is all you will receive as payment , not nearly enough to keep a bike competitive even without the odd mishap.

Junior

If they can't afford to do it then what's the point in riding speedway.......surely the goal is to be the best you can be,anyone with a burning ambition to be an elite league or gp rider would not give up this chance .

Perhaps its a British thing......can't see the Aussies giving up a chance like this if they were offered it.......they would make it happen.

[Jonny the spud]

Who's giving it up ? I've just committed a large amount of money to help a rider realise his ambition ..... Problem is. No ones called yet ?

 

 

See. Before passing judgement it's a wait and see game.

[Arson fire]

What's money got to do with it?? They do it for our entertainment .... So the brainwashed nerds say

[junior fan]

If they can't afford to do it then what's the point in riding speedway.......surely the goal is to be the best you can be,anyone with a burning ambition to be an elite league or gp rider would not give up this chance .

Perhaps its a British thing......can't see the Aussies giving up a chance like this if they were offered it.......they would make it happen.

I will leave it to you Spud , unlike some you know what the costs involved are.

Junior

[junior fan]

If they can't afford to do it then what's the point in riding speedway.......surely the goal is to be the best you can be,anyone with a burning ambition to be an elite league or gp rider would not give up this chance .

Perhaps its a British thing......can't see the Aussies giving up a chance like this if they were offered it.......they would make it happen.

I will leave it to you Spud , unlike some you know what the costs involved are.

Junior

[fish keeper]

Well if they are willing to step up to the EL they should be given all the help they can get to make it work for the sake of British speedway.

[T.N.T.]

The key words were ...... also riders with limited experience in the top flight.

 

 

This would most likely apply to Lewis Blackbrd rather than Andrew Tully.

[g13webb]

I think the inception of British Riders into the reserves of the top league is a wonderful idea, and should benefit the home born riders. All the problems being posted are related to how it is going to be implemented. We have heard these riders called 'NL Riders' , 'Young British Riders', Riders with little Elite Experience', and to me , this is where all the problems lay.

I believe this idea of a British rider, cannot be age related, it should be open to all riders who want to go down that route. Rather than have someone delegating where these dominated riders ride or what grade they are, Why not concentrate on the guidelines and restraints of these positions, so each rider can choose which route he wants to take. Once everybody are made aware of these rules, Both the promoters and riders can then negotiate together, of what they want to do.

Why complicate a wonderful idea by putting additional problems in the way

[SteveLyric2]

I believe this idea of a British rider, cannot be age related, it should be open to all riders who want to go down that route. Rather than have someone delegating where these dominated riders ride or what grade they are, Why not concentrate on the guidelines and restraints of these positions, so each rider can choose which route he wants to take. Once everybody are made aware of these rules, Both the promoters and riders can then negotiate together, of what they want to do.

Why complicate a wonderful idea by putting additional problems in the way

Not sure any club will want a 'dominated' reserve rider??!!

Seriously though, with the 20+ Brits being 'nominated' by the Team GB U21 management, then surely they will select those riders who have ambition to progress!?

 

I just hope there are enough !!! Or maybe we'll see a revision to the rule at the December meeting of only ONE allocated young Brit plus a nominated Brit Number 8??!!

[Elephantman]

The EL is trying to sort the future of the youngsters in the UK, something that the PL cant be bothered with. It seems they are happy to have a foreigner doing the job instead. Someone has to start so the EL promoters should be applauded where the PL have failed.

I'm sorry but your post is absolute tosh. The EL promoters are looking after their own self interest and it has nothing to do with them sorting the future of British youngsters; that is pure hype and spin. They have a broken product and they need to reduce costs. Simple as that. They have the opportunity to dress the solution up to make it look as if they have suddenly developed largesse towards the young GB riders.

 

They are real hero's these Elite League promoters, what a hole the sport would be in with out their undoubted abilities to con the paying public! I just cannot believe people are falling for their garbage proposals.

 

The one thing you have said that I agree with is "someone has to start" you are correct; but it would help if the start was planned around what is best for the young riders rather than what is best for a failing Elite League.

[500cc]

Not sure any club will want a 'dominated' reserve rider??!!

Seriously though, with the 20+ Brits being 'nominated' by the Team GB U21 management, then surely they will select those riders who have ambition to progress!?

 

I just hope there are enough !!! Or maybe we'll see a revision to the rule at the December meeting of only ONE allocated young Brit plus a nominated Brit Number 8??!!

 

I too wonder if there will need to be a revision, mind you I was more thinking around June/July time !!!

 

I'm a massive advocate of opening up opportunities to the British youngsters (and not so young to). I just worry the jump is too far in one go. We've got to allow these riders to at least get a reasonable recompense to start with. We do though appear to be asking 2012 NL second strings to ride as EL (second) reserves in 2013. With mention of Number 8's (without them we could hit big problems with injuries, but there are finances again), the pool becomes further inexperienced.

 

This all assumes that everybody qualified takes up the offer. In many ways the more inexperienced riders will jump at the chance. Those who are 2012 PL reserve level will particularly need to ensure the financials stack-up. That's not showing no ambition, but they need to be sure that they can continue their progression at the correct current level for the majority (PL) with the EL being the extra fast-tracking. To extent, providing their costs (including intangibles) are covered at EL level then that may be fine, providing it has no impact on their earning potential at PL level (I'm down the road of fixture clashes here).

 

I'm actually quite excited to see the opportunities being made available here; I'm concerned though that the number crunching (costs, availability, pool of riders etc.) may not back this up over a long season.

Edited November 28, 2013 by 500cc