SCB Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 These rider ride for £10 a point in the NL and get 4 heats. In the EL they're going to get 2 NL heats and a Pl standard heat. So they should be happy to ride for twice the money for half the heats. Anything over £20 a point means they'll earn more than if they ride NL! Also, makes me laugh, we're doing this to fast track youth but in the PL Glasgow have just signed a Dane to start in reserve LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 An exciting young up & coming superstar (Robert Lambert) turns round and says I'm not riding for you for £40 per point. I fully expect any British team to offer him more to keep him wouldn't you??? There is a good list of rider's that could pull these strings No, he is contacted and offered the opportunity, the club doesn't know who it's going to get, the odds are that Lambert will go to Kings Lynn, seeing as he signed for them before the end of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballroom Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 £40 a point, don't make me laugh, the Promoters will soon break that rule. how can that be enforced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) Why, they are allocated the riders, so it isn't as if they can offer a tempter?How can you place the riders ? all the rider has to do is say he's not going . Edited November 24, 2013 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballroom Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 How can you place the riders ? all the rider has to do is say he's not going . and thats why this AGM decision can`t work, apart from the pay cap on reserves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 and thats why this AGM decision can`t work, apart from the pay cap on reservesPay cap ? can't be done in Speedway people will just pay cash in hand . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 These rider ride for £10 a point in the NL and get 4 heats. In the EL they're going to get 2 NL heats and a Pl standard heat. So they should be happy to ride for twice the money for half the heats. Anything over £20 a point means they'll earn more than if they ride NL! Also, makes me laugh, we're doing this to fast track youth but in the PL Glasgow have just signed a Dane to start in reserve LOL. You are seriously mistaken to think all the top NL riders are on £10 a point. Especially the ones most likely to be given the opportunity for EL. I know of 2 being paid £45 + expenses. This £10 a point is a minimum wage in the NL not the maximum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 1 a year then - the word token comes to mind! wink Or a bit like Berwick ;-) The PL should be helping to sort the s##t that the whole sport has got itself into. The leagues can't operate in isolation but they constantly seem determined to try to. Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Why should PL sort the s##t the EL has got themselves in to?? WHY ? ....... Maybe because they chaarge virtually the same for a nghts racing as most EL tracks but pay considerablt less out on wages and would rather pay a total novice from Hugary, Argentina or Southern Peru than a 17 year old that lives a short bus route away from the track. The National League is there to help bring British riders into the sport and they should be encouraged to move up the ladder as they progress and not go from Kindergarten to University. Perhaps you coukd list all the British riders who have ridden for Wolves this century - it shouldnt take long! Tai Woffinden, Graham Jones, Andy Phillips, Darren Phillips, Wayne Carter, Neil Collins, Carl Bodley, Phil Ashcroft, Richard Lawson, Joe Haines, Stephen Morris, Craig Taylor, David Howe, George Hunter, Jimmy McMillan, Ken Eyre, Pete Jarman, Tom Leadbitter, Mark Loram, Alun Rossiter, Neil Evitts, DaveTrownson, Dave Morton, Gordon Kennett, Andy Grahame, Martin Scarisbrick, Richard Musson, Oliver Allen, Carl Stonehewer, Steve Schofield, Simon Stead, Paul Stead, Tommy Sweetman, Rick France, Terry Betts, James Bond, Harry Bastable, Ivor Davies, Malcolm Shakespear, Norman Hunter, Stew McDonald, Will Lawson, James Greaves, Bert Harkins, Paul Hurry, Carl Wilkinson, Dave Hemus, Spike "Mr Wolf" Burton, Mick Handley, Geoff Ambrose, Rob Carter, Steve Lomas, Eric Irons, Brian Maxstead, Chris Cobby, Chris Neath, Vic Rigeon, Benny King, Ernie Baker, Steve Crockett, Frank Killeen, Bob Andrews, Jon Erskine, Jim Tolley, Cyril Quick, Jimmy Grant, Morie Mattingley, Brian Sheppard, Ray Moreton, Ken Brown, Les Tolley, Billy Burton, Colin White, Les Rumsey, Paul Thorp, Mike Wilding, Louis Carr, Alan Cowland, Derk Braithwaite, Derek Timms, Bill Powell, Rob Hollingsworth, Brian Woodward, Les Jenkins, Colin Meredith, Harry Edwards, John Jackson, Tony Atkin, Dave Strutt, Tony Clarke, Garry Stead, Nigel Leaver, Harry Wardropper, Charlie Hayden, John Hitchins, Bob Oakley, Alun Sutcliffe, Dean Felton, Ron Wilson, Ronnie Genz, Cliff Biggs, Derek Howard, Paul Embrey, Phil Malpass, Bill Bridgett, Alan Bridgett, Eric Eadon, Cyril Maidment, Ron Taylor, John Hough, Terry Stone, Jon Wainwright, Errol Brook, Harry Saunders, Dick Saunders, Ernie Lessiter, Stan Bradbury, Rob Finlow, Steve Braidford, Ernie Stears, Wayne Broadhurst, Simon Wolstenholme, Cyril Page, George Davenport, Nigel Wasley, Brian Brett, Jim Chalkley, Dean Standing, Andy Summers, Lee Complin, Brian Pickering, Keith Anderson, Dave Baugh, Pete Adams, Mark Burrows, Dai Evans, Lee Dicken, Syd George, David Clarke, Bob Warner, Steve McDermott, Chris Harrison, Paul Sharpes, Guy Allott, Geoff Pymar, Derrol Keats, Bill McGregor, Ted Gibson, Stuart Riley, Richard Smith, Ade Hoole, Archie Wilkinson, Richard Parker, Lee Smehills, Dave Allen, Roger Knight, Johnnie Walker, Denns Cross, Carl Checketts, Mark Stokes, Frank Bettis, Bob Webb, Bob Harrison, Tim Curnock, Paul Simons, Mike Lawerence, Luke Priest, Jack Hargreaves, Lee Edwards, George Watts, Chris Royndon, Bruce Cooley, Alan Guest and last but not least, Dave Parrys Intenational Hope that's not too long 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluTiger Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Tai Woffinden, Graham Jones, Andy Phillips, Darren Phillips, Wayne Carter, Neil Collins, Carl Bodley, Phil Ashcroft, Richard Lawson, Joe Haines, Stephen Morris, Craig Taylor, David Howe, George Hunter, Jimmy McMillan, Ken Eyre, Pete Jarman, Tom Leadbitter, Mark Loram, Alun Rossiter, Neil Evitts, DaveTrownson, Dave Morton, Gordon Kennett, Andy Grahame, Martin Scarisbrick, Richard Musson, Oliver Allen, Carl Stonehewer, Steve Schofield, Simon Stead, Paul Stead, Tommy Sweetman, Rick France, Terry Betts, James Bond, Harry Bastable, Ivor Davies, Malcolm Shakespear, Norman Hunter, Stew McDonald, Will Lawson, James Greaves, Bert Harkins, Paul Hurry, Carl Wilkinson, Dave Hemus, Spike "Mr Wolf" Burton, Mick Handley, Geoff Ambrose, Rob Carter, Steve Lomas, Eric Irons, Brian Maxstead, Chris Cobby, Chris Neath, Vic Rigeon, Benny King, Ernie Baker, Steve Crockett, Frank Killeen, Bob Andrews, Jon Erskine, Jim Tolley, Cyril Quick, Jimmy Grant, Morie Mattingley, Brian Sheppard, Ray Moreton, Ken Brown, Les Tolley, Billy Burton, Colin White, Les Rumsey, Paul Thorp, Mike Wilding, Louis Carr, Alan Cowland, Derk Braithwaite, Derek Timms, Bill Powell, Rob Hollingsworth, Brian Woodward, Les Jenkins, Colin Meredith, Harry Edwards, John Jackson, Tony Atkin, Dave Strutt, Tony Clarke, Garry Stead, Nigel Leaver, Harry Wardropper, Charlie Hayden, John Hitchins, Bob Oakley, Alun Sutcliffe, Dean Felton, Ron Wilson, Ronnie Genz, Cliff Biggs, Derek Howard, Paul Embrey, Phil Malpass, Bill Bridgett, Alan Bridgett, Eric Eadon, Cyril Maidment, Ron Taylor, John Hough, Terry Stone, Jon Wainwright, Errol Brook, Harry Saunders, Dick Saunders, Ernie Lessiter, Stan Bradbury, Rob Finlow, Steve Braidford, Ernie Stears, Wayne Broadhurst, Simon Wolstenholme, Cyril Page, George Davenport, Nigel Wasley, Brian Brett, Jim Chalkley, Dean Standing, Andy Summers, Lee Complin, Brian Pickering, Keith Anderson, Dave Baugh, Pete Adams, Mark Burrows, Dai Evans, Lee Dicken, Syd George, David Clarke, Bob Warner, Steve McDermott, Chris Harrison, Paul Sharpes, Guy Allott, Geoff Pymar, Derrol Keats, Bill McGregor, Ted Gibson, Stuart Riley, Richard Smith, Ade Hoole, Archie Wilkinson, Richard Parker, Lee Smehills, Dave Allen, Roger Knight, Johnnie Walker, Denns Cross, Carl Checketts, Mark Stokes, Frank Bettis, Bob Webb, Bob Harrison, Tim Curnock, Paul Simons, Mike Lawerence, Luke Priest, Jack Hargreaves, Lee Edwards, George Watts, Chris Royndon, Bruce Cooley, Alan Guest and last but not least, Dave Parrys Intenational Hope that's not too long Good effort, but way too long for this century. I don't think he mentioned the last century.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 You are seriously mistaken to think all the top NL riders are on £10 a point. Especially the ones most likely to be given the opportunity for EL. I know of 2 being paid £45 + expenses. This £10 a point is a minimum wage in the NL not the maximum £10 IS the maximum, anyone paying more is breaking the rules. So yes, all rider in the NL are on £10 a point in the same way they'll be on £40 a point in the EL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 How can you place the riders ? all the rider has to do is say he's not going .There is a list compiled which has more than twenty names on it, if you decline the offer of a place the next guy gets the offer, it's all explained in the Speedway Star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 WHY ? ....... Maybe because they chaarge virtually the same for a nghts racing as most EL tracks but pay considerablt less out on wages and would rather pay a total novice from Hugary, Argentina or Southern Peru than a 17 year old that lives a short bus route away from the track. The National League is there to help bring British riders into the sport and they should be encouraged to move up the ladder as they progress and not go from Kindergarten to University. Tai Woffinden, Graham Jones, Andy Phillips, Darren Phillips, Wayne Carter, Neil Collins, Carl Bodley, Phil Ashcroft, Richard Lawson, Joe Haines, Stephen Morris, Craig Taylor, David Howe, George Hunter, Jimmy McMillan, Ken Eyre, Pete Jarman, Tom Leadbitter, Mark Loram, Alun Rossiter, Neil Evitts, DaveTrownson, Dave Morton, Gordon Kennett, Andy Grahame, Martin Scarisbrick, Richard Musson, Oliver Allen, Carl Stonehewer, Steve Schofield, Simon Stead, Paul Stead, Tommy Sweetman, Rick France, Terry Betts, James Bond, Harry Bastable, Ivor Davies, Malcolm Shakespear, Norman Hunter, Stew McDonald, Will Lawson, James Greaves, Bert Harkins, Paul Hurry, Carl Wilkinson, Dave Hemus, Spike "Mr Wolf" Burton, Mick Handley, Geoff Ambrose, Rob Carter, Steve Lomas, Eric Irons, Brian Maxstead, Chris Cobby, Chris Neath, Vic Rigeon, Benny King, Ernie Baker, Steve Crockett, Frank Killeen, Bob Andrews, Jon Erskine, Jim Tolley, Cyril Quick, Jimmy Grant, Morie Mattingley, Brian Sheppard, Ray Moreton, Ken Brown, Les Tolley, Billy Burton, Colin White, Les Rumsey, Paul Thorp, Mike Wilding, Louis Carr, Alan Cowland, Derk Braithwaite, Derek Timms, Bill Powell, Rob Hollingsworth, Brian Woodward, Les Jenkins, Colin Meredith, Harry Edwards, John Jackson, Tony Atkin, Dave Strutt, Tony Clarke, Garry Stead, Nigel Leaver, Harry Wardropper, Charlie Hayden, John Hitchins, Bob Oakley, Alun Sutcliffe, Dean Felton, Ron Wilson, Ronnie Genz, Cliff Biggs, Derek Howard, Paul Embrey, Phil Malpass, Bill Bridgett, Alan Bridgett, Eric Eadon, Cyril Maidment, Ron Taylor, John Hough, Terry Stone, Jon Wainwright, Errol Brook, Harry Saunders, Dick Saunders, Ernie Lessiter, Stan Bradbury, Rob Finlow, Steve Braidford, Ernie Stears, Wayne Broadhurst, Simon Wolstenholme, Cyril Page, George Davenport, Nigel Wasley, Brian Brett, Jim Chalkley, Dean Standing, Andy Summers, Lee Complin, Brian Pickering, Keith Anderson, Dave Baugh, Pete Adams, Mark Burrows, Dai Evans, Lee Dicken, Syd George, David Clarke, Bob Warner, Steve McDermott, Chris Harrison, Paul Sharpes, Guy Allott, Geoff Pymar, Derrol Keats, Bill McGregor, Ted Gibson, Stuart Riley, Richard Smith, Ade Hoole, Archie Wilkinson, Richard Parker, Lee Smehills, Dave Allen, Roger Knight, Johnnie Walker, Denns Cross, Carl Checketts, Mark Stokes, Frank Bettis, Bob Webb, Bob Harrison, Tim Curnock, Paul Simons, Mike Lawerence, Luke Priest, Jack Hargreaves, Lee Edwards, George Watts, Chris Royndon, Bruce Cooley, Alan Guest and last but not least, Dave Parrys Intenational Hope that's not too long Impressive research TNT although I did say this century not last so in reality even your list is quite slim. Wink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Showing your age T.N.T I would like to say I don't remember half of them but I can't lol . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 If it's any help Joe Screen has been missed off that list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boffy Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) ...and Anthony Butt... and Steven Barr Edited November 25, 2013 by Boffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 There is a list compiled which has more than twenty names on it, if you decline the offer of a place the next guy gets the offer, it's all explained in the Speedway Star.So if there were 26 and eight said they were not going to ride what then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 So if there were 26 and eight said they were not going to ride what then ? Poole could sign 2 foreigners? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 So if there were 26 and eight said they were not going to ride what then ?Find two more! It's not rocket science FFS! I know one rider who declined the offer until Phil had explained it all to him, that prompted a change of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) Find two more! It's not rocket science FFS! I know one rider who declined the offer until Phil had explained it all to him, that prompted a change of mind. Quite ....young brits who ride and can step up to the El are a dime a dozen . Edited November 25, 2013 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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