Hodgy Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Quite true Foamfence!! I expect the clubs know who the additional 7 or so riders are going to be, but as its not been made known to the fans there will probably be 'major implications' or 'a massive disaster' for the future of the sport, just like the new race format!!!!!!! Quite right, supporters don't need to know anything until they turn up on the day. Why would they? I'm surprised they have all announced their teams prior to race day. Then again that will change on a match by match basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Quite true Foamfence!! I expect the clubs know who the additional 7 or so riders are going to be, but as its not been made known to the fans there will probably be 'major implications' or 'a massive disaster' for the future of the sport, just like the new race format!!!!!!! So please you find all this hilarious. But name me another sport that would treat their fans and supporters with such contempt, the same way as the BSPA have done. Name another sport that would expect their fans to turn up, pay good money and not know the product or program on offer..... Please continue having a good laugh..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 In that case, the 20 originally selected should have a guarantee that they can't be dumped until sometime like July. Maybe rider swaps (a 6 for a 6, 7 for a 7) should be allowed, as long as the riders concerned both agree and BSPA sanction it. Or if it benefits Poole Maybe rules like this are already set, but of course nobody needs to know aboujt them, least of all the paying customers!! (unless someone could kindly enlighten). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 So please you find all this hilarious. But name me another sport that would treat their fans and supporters with such contempt, the same way as the BSPA have done. Name another sport that would expect their fans to turn up, pay good money and not know the product or program on offer..... Please continue having a good laugh..... In football, teams are not announced until 30 mins before kick off... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 So please you find all this hilarious. But name me another sport that would treat their fans and supporters with such contempt, the same way as the BSPA have done. Name another sport that would expect their fans to turn up, pay good money and not know the product or program on offer..... Please continue having a good laugh..... Mushroom management........keep em in the dark and throw some s**t in every now and then In football, teams are not announced until 30 mins before kick off... .....or the problem in most sports with refs seeming to all have ttheir own changing take on the rules/laws,often depending on what kind of mood they're in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 So please you find all this hilarious. But name me another sport that would treat their fans and supporters with such contempt, the same way as the BSPA have done. Name another sport that would expect their fans to turn up, pay good money and not know the product or program on offer..... Please continue having a good laugh..... Come off it GRW123, most team sports are subject to a change in line-up before every match. No fan will know for definite what the full team is or when a substitute might come on until they are at the stadium. They do know that the match will last 80 or 90 minutes - depending on the sport - in the same way as we know there will be 15 heats!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Come off it GRW123, most team sports are subject to a change in line-up before every match. No fan will know for definite what the full team is or when a substitute might come on until they are at the stadium. They do know that the match will last 80 or 90 minutes - depending on the sport - in the same way as we know there will be 15 heats!! A change in the line-up is expected, but if you went to a football match it will be played for ninety minutes to rules that everybody knows. We all know the expected line-ups for the speedway but that's about all we know. Sorry, we know there will be 4 riders going round a track on bikes with no brakes, but that been like that since the sport started, Its the stupid rules that are the issue, and they change every week........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Come off it GRW123, most team sports are subject to a change in line-up before every match. No fan will know for definite what the full team is or when a substitute might come on until they are at the stadium. They do know that the match will last 80 or 90 minutes - depending on the sport - in the same way as we know there will be 15 heats!! OK, but i think speedway matches are a bit different to most team sports, by having a stronger "individual" element to the attraction value of any particular match? Possibly cricket is a close example of something similar - the prescence of a particular player having greater influence on attendance decisions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Thought I add this here which I'd put on the Leicester v Peterborough thread:- People are getting hung up on the reserve being fixed into the team for the whole season. I couldn't see that rule at all but did see this which tells me they can be fired. You can only replace from the existing or soon to be extended draft list. 17.4.2 A Teams combined MA for the top 5 positions must not exceed 32.00 points nor include more than 2 x “A” grade Riders or 2 Doubling-Up Riders (satisfying the same conditions as for the initial Team Declaration) when re-declared, either permanently or temporarily, except where the MA of the introduced Rider is equal to, or lower than the Rider being replaced. Similarly only Riders with the same or lower FTDP Grading may be re-declared for the 6th or 7th positions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Reckon Olly Greenwood will be in high demand come the time when draft system extends its riders. Great start to the season, and has the qualities certainly to beat the other draft riders, as he has shown already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethelion Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Reckon Olly Greenwood will be in high demand come the time when draft system extends its riders. Great start to the season, and has the qualities certainly to beat the other draft riders, as he has shown already. He certainly looked very good last night at Leicester & i was most impressed with him.Joe Jacobs was also good & I don't think Wolves fans should have any worries about him performing well for them this season. Which is more than Leicester can say about their reserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Oliver Greenwood was on the original draft of 30-odd riders, but didn't go forwards to the main draft. Does anyone know why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 The 7 that didnt go through declined apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) If a draft rider gets injured can the team use a draft rider from another team as a guest? Edited March 28, 2014 by eric i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 If a draft rider gets injured can the team use a draft rider from another team as a guest? As long as they fall below there ranking order. IE Ashley Morris is ranked 4th so anyone 5th or below can guest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Well I think last night at Kings Lynn may have silenced the critics. They may say that the riders on show would have been EL anyway but....Would they? Lets hope the rest get going in time it's all good to see 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 It seems really weird looking at the scores of the draft riders in action for their Premier League clubs tonight & then comparing them to their Elite League scores. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 What I feel is strange, in our two draft riders, Kerr is the better then Rose, but the gap is not that big. I believe as the season progresses we will see Rose become a more accomplished rider and get even closer to Lewis Kerr. After all he's only been riding a year. Am I right in thinking that the draft riders averages stays the same throughout the year regardless of how they perform this year and that any replacements are governed by their old original CMA. Cos my concern is , If Kerr gets injured, he can be replaced by any other rider in the draft because Kerr was ranked No'1. However, if Rose gets injured, and because he is ranked at the bottom we will only have a handful of riders to choice from. Am I thinking that right....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 SR 16.2.7 Updated EL / PL MA’s (and a FTDP List) will be calculated on all eligible Meetings up to and including 23rd of each month and issued to become effective from 1st of the following month. SR 17.3.6 A Grading List will be established of eligible Riders on the British Speedway Fast Track Development Programme (FTDP Rider). This Listing will be used by EL Teams to declare Riders for the 6th & 7th positions in the Team Declarations and also for use as Guest replacements. This Grading List will also be revised monthly as per SR 16.2.7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 What I feel is strange, in our two draft riders, Kerr is the better then Rose, but the gap is not that big. I believe as the season progresses we will see Rose become a more accomplished rider and get even closer to Lewis Kerr. After all he's only been riding a year. Am I right in thinking that the draft riders averages stays the same throughout the year regardless of how they perform this year and that any replacements are governed by their old original CMA. Cos my concern is , If Kerr gets injured, he can be replaced by any other rider in the draft because Kerr was ranked No'1. However, if Rose gets injured, and because he is ranked at the bottom we will only have a handful of riders to choice from. Am I thinking that right....... The order of the list changes every month depending on the form of the rider. We are in the same boat with Sarjeant he is far better than his position in the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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