Jacques Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 My understanding is the League Champions get first choice... Is that because you can't read? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 My understanding is the League Champions get first choice... You are correct. Matt Ford stated that the reserve he wanted was Kyle Newman. And they get to pick him before everyone else. Once Poole have selected him and Wolves, Lakeside and Kings Lynn theirs, then bottom club Coventry finally get a go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 You are correct. Matt Ford stated that the reserve he wanted was Kyle Newman. And they get to pick him before everyone else. Once Poole have selected him and Wolves, Lakeside and Kings Lynn theirs, then bottom club Coventry finally get a go. Sounds about right to me... I thought they got last choice? Don't know where you read that, but that's wrong... As I said my understanding is League Champions get first dibs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Assuming he isn't chosen by another club as a first pick and/or doesn't wasn't to ride elsewhere, I'd be both surprised and disappointed if Lewis Rose isn't at Lynn next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Garrity will be at belle Vue Blackbird at Coventry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBee Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Firstly, why state NL riders at reserve and then change it. Changing the goalposts before the season has started. I then think Leicester have been shafted with their positioning in the draft, they should get first pick surely. Why have a draft if all draft riders aren't available. Protected riders in a draft just devalues the draft. Either draft riders properly or let promoters approach riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Don't be suprised if belle Vue go out and buy back garrity and have him as a protected asset Firstly, why state NL riders at reserve and then change it. Changing the goalposts before the season has started. I then think Leicester have been shafted with their positioning in the draft, they should get first pick surely. Why have a draft if all draft riders aren't available. Protected riders in a draft just devalues the draft. Either draft riders properly or let promoters approach riders. I agree Leicester should have had first pick Firstly, why state NL riders at reserve and then change it. Changing the goalposts before the season has started. I then think Leicester have been shafted with their positioning in the draft, they should get first pick surely. Why have a draft if all draft riders aren't available. Protected riders in a draft just devalues the draft. Either draft riders properly or let promoters approach riders. I agree Leicester should have had first pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Firstly, why state NL riders at reserve and then change it. Changing the goalposts before the season has started. I don't actually think they changed their minds, it was just very thoughtlessly worded in the first place. But rest assured plenty of goalposts will move between now and 31st October 2014 in British speedway !!! Don't be suprised if belle Vue go out and buy back garrity and have him as a protected asset I agree Leicester should have had first pick I agree Leicester should have had first pick Interesting point Phil about any rider becoming an asset before Tuesday. Bet Matt Ford was first to think of that possibility though !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Well he is usually the first to beat the others to the punch!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Yep, again. Easy to say that though isn't it when it wouldn't have mattered who Kyle was an asset in reality. You keep believing that though as that's the easy thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 My understanding is the League Champions get first choice...From today's newspaper.(Swindon Advertiser). The Advertiser understands four riders, Newman (Poole), Kerr (King’s Lynn), Adam Ellis (Lakeside) and Ashley Morris (Wolverhampton) are protected, meaning their parent clubs have first call on their services - but only in the first round of the draft. Coventry are set to get first pick in round one due to the fact they finished bottom of the league with the Robins going third last behind play-off finalists Birmingham and Poole. The team with the lowest ranked rider at the end of round one will choose first in the second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beesknees Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 My understanding is the League Champions get first choice... 4 protected riders, if not chosen by the 4 teams then they go back into the draft which then runs from position 10 to 1 ... So Poole don't get first pick, the 4 teams get equal chance to retain their protected rider, then first pick goes to Coventry ... It's quite simple really! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 So Poole get last pick in draft 1 and dont pick Newman but instead pick No10 on the list. They lose the protection to pick Newman but as they have the lowest ranked rider from draft 1 get first pick in draft 2. So they then get Newman anyway and end up with by far the strongest pairing. The only thing to prevent this happening is another team making a lowly pick in draft 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 So Poole get last pick in draft 1 and dont pick Newman but instead pick No10 on the list. They lose the protection to pick Newman but as they have the lowest ranked rider from draft 1 get first pick in draft 2. So they then get Newman anyway and end up with by far the strongest pairing. The only thing to prevent this happening is another team making a lowly pick in draft 1. No, because Newman is then available for anyone else to pick and protected riders can only be in the first round of picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 So Poole get last pick in draft 1 and dont pick Newman but instead pick No10 on the list. They lose the protection to pick Newman but as they have the lowest ranked rider from draft 1 get first pick in draft 2. So they then get Newman anyway and end up with by far the strongest pairing. The only thing to prevent this happening is another team making a lowly pick in draft 1. If there wasn't an advantage somewhere for Poole , we wouldn't be discussing the new rules, because there wouldn't be any 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 No, because Newman is then available for anyone else to pick and protected riders can only be in the first round of picks.But Poole would get first pick in the 2nd round if picks to select Newman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alkadera Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Surely if they don't say they want their protected asset before the first round pick then Newman will revert to being part of the 'unprotected' list and as such would be free for the other teams to pick in the first round...or is that too obvious?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 But Poole would get first pick in the 2nd round if picks to select Newman.They have to declare beforehand if they want to retain the protected status that he has, otherwise the rider becomes available to others, protected riders are limited to the first round of picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 No, because Newman is then available for anyone else to pick and protected riders can only be in the first round of picks.So have Poole got to declare their draft 1 pick first? I thought they had last pick? I suppose it could be that another club has to attempt to pick Newman in draft 1 and so force Poole to invoke their protection in draft 1 and pick hum then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 So have Poole got to declare their draft 1 pick first? I thought they had last pick? I suppose it could be that another club has to attempt to pick Newman in draft 1 and so force Poole to invoke their protection in draft 1 and pick hum then. If you want to retain the protected status you have to say so before the picks, there are four protected status riders, they are limited to the first pick section whatever happens. If Poole drop his status and nobody else picks him, he's out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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