philfromcov Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 a 5 point pl average equates (using 60%) to a 3 point el average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 But one selection looks like a logistical nightmare ... when Thursday-home-track Swindon made their first pick, were they aware that Steve Worrall had already signed for Friday-home-track Edinburgh ? !! Taken to its most awkward extreme, Steve could end up with the sequence of King's Lynn v Swindon on a Wednesday, then Swindon's home meeting the next night, and then the annual double-bill of Monarchs-Devils meetings at Edinburgh on the Friday and Plymouth on the Saturday !! Yep. Madness. That's the kind of fallout you get when the powers that be want to stop the Aces in their tracks. When this idea was first mooted, Garrity & Worrall were the likely Aces pair. That was never going to be allowed but as I say it's a shame for the young lads that get caught in the middle. Expensive too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Garrity may not be a product of Coventry but he's not a product of any EL teams NL team is he? Hence he was not linked to any team in the draft so a poor example there I believe it was you used the Cov example anyway at least we agree the scheme is a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Just as a 'side issue', anyone else notice the 'clever' wording in the BSPA announcement of the reserve pairings today??? The words 'top flight' league were used 3 times rather than the word 'Elite'!! (Yes I know its not 'Elite' anyway). Is this in advance of the new League Sponsor/TV announcement?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) Despite the reservations of some Swindon fans they have a bloody good pairing there IMO. Yea two riders who as PL reserves got Sacked for last year for not being good enough ...yea outstanding . Edited December 3, 2013 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Leicesters picks were a bit puzzling. Perry when I have seen him is a great little racer but wouldnt hit the first turn in front even if he had his own gate that went up half a second earlier - hardly what you need at Leicester! Then having an early round 2 pick they go for one of the lowest ranked on the list. I know nothing of Clegg but that still seems strange. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I believe it was you used the Cov example anyway at least we agree the scheme is a good one. I did. Because Coventry having a NL team means that if James Shanes or Luke Crang become any good they should be Coventrys choice for 2015. But if anyone can sign them, whats the point of Coventry bothering to run NL racing? They may as well let someone else get them and pick them in the same draft as everyone else. At least if them riders come good now Coventry get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I did. Because Coventry having a NL team means that if James Shanes or Luke Crang become any good they should be Coventrys choice for 2015. But if anyone can sign them, whats the point of Coventry bothering to run NL racing? They may as well let someone else get them and pick them in the same draft as everyone else. At least if them riders come good now Coventry get them. Fair enough. I agree that those who have developed riders should have them but I don't know why the initial press releases insinuated they wouldn't that's the bit I can't understand. If you have developed them then you should have them if you haven't bothered then you should have what you are given Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) I did. Because Coventry having a NL team means that if James Shanes or Luke Crang become any good they should be Coventrys choice for 2015. But if anyone can sign them, whats the point of Coventry bothering to run NL racing? They may as well let someone else get them and pick them in the same draft as everyone else. At least if them riders come good now Coventry get them. I do love your optimism that the same rules will apply for 2015!! ps. Who was it that said the Asset system doesn't work?! Edited December 3, 2013 by Skidder1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Yea two riders who as PL reserves got Sacked for last year for not being good enough ...yea outstanding . Compared to other pairings I think it looks pretty good. Worrall had an awful start last season but pulled himself together towards the end and was scoring big points in the NL and guesting in the PL, and riding for a PL side with such a big home track advantage will help him no end. Bates is very young but full of promise and I'd have him over Smart, Lambert, Halsey and Starke every single time. We'll see in time but there are several worse pairings for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I do love your optimism that the same rules will apply for 2015!! ps. Who was it that said the Asset system doesn't work?! This should be about reward for developing riders, not for buying them as an asset. The danger is clubs will go out and buy a rider as an asset without developing them, so that they get an advantage in any future rider allocation process. Whilst I agree with you re-2015 not being the same, it does suggest an asset will supersede any similar process introduced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur cross Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Yep. Madness. That's the kind of fallout you get when the powers that be want to stop the Aces in their tracks. When this idea was first mooted, Garrity & Worrall were the likely Aces pair. That was never going to be allowed but as I say it's a shame for the young lads that get caught in the middle. Expensive too. I know you're always on the look out for anti-Aces decisions ... but on this occasion, I think Swindon gambling on Steve Worrall's end-of-2013 form being worthy of their tail-end first-round pick has thrown an unexpected spanner in any plans Belle Vue had to use their second-round pick on Steve. I'm still seriously wondering whether Swindon paid any attention to any Premier League signings when picking an Edinburgh-bound rider !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Kings Lynn have the best IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Kings Lynn have the best IMO. The benefits of opting out of the draft !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Leicesters picks were a bit puzzling. Perry when I have seen him is a great little racer but wouldnt hit the first turn in front even if he had his own gate that went up half a second earlier - hardly what you need at Leicester! Then having an early round 2 pick they go for one of the lowest ranked on the list. I know nothing of Clegg but that still seems strange. Leicester is generally "a bit puzzling" at present, but they were in a difficult position especially with no "asset" riders. I think Clegg was showing good progress at the end of the season with Dudley (and has been signed by Coventry as an asset unless i am getting him mixed up with someone else), so he is clearly well-regarded. But if he is Cov's asset, slightly strange that Leicester are investing in his development!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) he signed for dudley as an asset at the end of the season. you may be thinking of luke crang or james shanes who signed for coventry. Edited December 3, 2013 by therefused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) Leicester is generally "a bit puzzling" at present, but they were in a difficult position especially with no "asset" riders. I think Clegg was showing good progress at the end of the season with Dudley (and has been signed by Coventry as an asset unless i am getting him mixed up with someone else), so he is clearly well-regarded. But if he is Cov's asset, slightly strange that Leicester are investing in his development!! Good to see the youngsters getting right behind it. Just reading the thread on the Leicester facebook site between the Lions fans and Max Clegg. Couldn't make it up! Edited December 3, 2013 by volty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Good to see the youngsters getting right behind it. Just reading the thread on the Leicester facebook site between the Lions fans and Max Clegg. Couldn't make it up! I have to say I thought that to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Well if Steve Worrall was my son I would seriously consider the logic of how many miles he has to do for his home meetings at Swindon as he's a northern based lad & it's madness to have him put in this position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur cross Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Well if Steve Worrall was my son I would seriously consider the logic of how many miles he has to do for his home meetings at Swindon as he's a northern based lad & it's madness to have him put in this position. If he's still based with his family in St Helens (between Liverpool & Manchester) it's not too bad a journey to and from Swindon because it's nearly all M6, M5 and the mostly dual carriageway from Cheltenham to the Abbey Stadium ... about 200 miles each way but don't forget both he and his twin brother have been used to doing around 160 miles each way for Newcastle's home meetings (and Richie's been doing a much fiddlier and longer trip for his 2013 home meetings with King's Lynn). However, as I mentioned a few posts ago, the really alarming bit is that Thursday-track Swindon have drafted him about a week after he'd been snapped up for a Premier League reserve place at Friday-track Edinburgh ... I know St Helens requires only a few miles' detour off the quickest route between the Abbey and Armadale but that's soon going to feel like a dreadful slog of a journey each week (remember Ronnie Correy soon becoming fed up a few years ago with heading from the Midlands to Edinburgh every week ? !!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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