Lord Antebellum Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Sheffield WILL run. If the sale is not completed (which I doubt very much) Neil would never walk away and leave it with out a sorting something out even if just a silent partner. ... and the airfence issue will be resolved, how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekimba Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 North/ south split 6 teams so 5h 5a, then drawn against 2 teams from opposite division giving another 2h 2a. 14 regular season matches. If true what a crock of ****. Imo of course I thought it was 14 home and 14 away, where does it say anything about regional split ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmuffe Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) North/ south split 6 teams so 5h 5a, then drawn against 2 teams from opposite division giving another 2h 2a. 14 regular season matches. If true what a crock of ****. Imo of course Stop giving them ideas. A really wacky idea is, bearing in mind 14 league 3 LC 1 KOC=min 18 if same system as before top six call 2 more home 18, p/o finalists 19, + LC & KOCSF's & finals suggests a lot of teams could manage 22 home matches why knock all cups/offs on head and run h & a twice... top team is PL Champions. Trouble is not sure it would work as we are still a 4 day a week league. Cardiff GP Saturday, Pairs on a Friday, 4's & PLRC on Sundays the U21 changing to a GP system makes a dent in staging days(sure I have missed something) before we start unless you run utilising guests or NL replacements.. Imo the double up down system already has a major effect on availability and wont be improved by the inclusion of two brits in the EL however that manifests itself. Whatever happens we are still in the doggy do. Edited November 19, 2013 by seanmuffe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 That sounds reasonable - but - it isn't very clear - is it? It just shows you what rubbish their PR is, a one line sentence could have made it clear in the press release, but they are obviously clueless when it comes to keeping their customers informed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 It could work out a good idea. Clubs are asking for more meaningful meetings so they seam to have decided that they are doing extra 3 home 3 away. They will prob do it by distance meaning less travel and hopefully more fans traveling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Surprise, Surprise. Fiasco will always be retained as long as the BSPA make it up as they go along. Its high time these decisions were put together by a more proffessional body. Yes but would the Women's Institute be interested in doing this sort of thing in November. After all there is a lot of knitting to do this time of year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 It could work out a good idea. Clubs are asking for more meaningful meetings so they seam to have decided that they are doing extra 3 home 3 away. They will prob do it by distance meaning less travel and hopefully more fans traveling. but if you already race each other in a north/south group, you would then have to travel further for the extra 3. i am assuming here if this is the case, edinburgh, glasgow, berwick, newcastle, redcar. workington. plymouth, somerset, rye house, ipswich, sheffield, scunthorpe. so by what your saying on distance plymouth/somerset would meet redcar/workington, rye/ipswich v newcastle/berwick and sheffield/scunthorpe v glasgow/edinburgh. seems the north especially glasgow/edinburgh are getting the best deal here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) I think it would be these for extra home and away fixtures Glasgow Edinburgh Berwick Workington Newcastle Redcar Sheffield Scunthorpe Ipswich Somerset Plymouth Rye House Edited November 19, 2013 by GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I think it would be these for extra home and away fixtures Glasgow Edinburgh Berwick Workington Newcastle Redcar Sheffield Scunthorpe Ipswich Somerset Plymouth Rye House So you could get the situation of 2 sides meeting in LC PL1 PL2 Koc LCF and play offs which would be about 1 in every 4 meetings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Antebellum Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I think it would be these for extra home and away fixtures Glasgow Edinburgh Berwick Workington Newcastle Redcar Sheffield Scunthorpe Ipswich Somerset Plymouth Rye House These will (patently) be the League Cup groups. Surely you don't want a straight repeat as doubled-up league fixtures as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 These will (patently) be the League Cup groups. Surely you don't want a straight repeat as doubled-up league fixtures as well?Definitely not! If there has to be additional fixtures they must not be from the same LC group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Could Peterborough be a potential inclusion? OK this only takes it to 12 home and away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmuffe Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 don't give them ideas lets just sit back and marvel at the answer when we get it Said it would be worth waiting for..........this defies description it would be if it wasn't so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 When I read the initial press release I did wonder how it would be done, now we can see it beggars belief, can someone explain why, the last two seasons have run to the wire time wise, already promoters are worried about doubling up clashes, , especially now it looks like el/bl gets priority, as someone else has mentioned why not run fours qualifiers on similar lines to the league cup, 4 groups 3 top tea.s go through so 4 teams in final, but make it full 1-7s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) They are going to use the same system as the EL used, each team nominates 3 opponents and the extra fixtures are worked out from there. Last season was a joke considering Glasgow didn't even run enough matches to cover the season ticket cost!! And we had a few filler matches at that. Some teams had so many gaps that they were running twice a month. The fours won't be back as the southern promoters lost money. The experiment in 2011 if it had been thought through better was a good compromise so I suppose this latest version of it is fine. Edited November 24, 2013 by DW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Every fan loved the 4s qualifiers they had years ago and you read comments every year about it. These are different meeting creating excitement for fans but for some reason promoters don't seam to like the idea. I would rather see local 4s qualifiers than meaningless meetings or extra league meetings against the same old teams. And at least you would get the right teams in the final and just run a final rather than the semis on the same day creating a long drawn out meeting lasting hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Antebellum Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Every fan loved the 4s qualifiers they had years ago and you read comments every year about it. These are different meeting creating excitement for fans but for some reason promoters don't seam to like the idea. I would rather see local 4s qualifiers than meaningless meetings or extra league meetings against the same old teams. And at least you would get the right teams in the final and just run a final rather than the semis on the same day creating a long drawn out meeting lasting hours Fans in the north loved them, especially over a weekend. In the south we didn't care -- you don't get much local derby excitement when Plymouth are in four-team qualifier at Ipswich on a Thursday night. Also(and fans have to consider this as the main reason they'll never be reinstated)promoters have to fund travel and top-up points money for three away fixtures out of the proceeds from only one home meeting. In this day and age, the sums don't add up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 When I read the initial press release I did wonder how it would be done, now we can see it beggars belief, can someone explain why, the last two seasons have run to the wire time wise, already promoters are worried about doubling up clashes, , especially now it looks like el/bl gets priority, as someone else has mentioned why not run fours qualifiers on similar lines to the league cup, 4 groups 3 top tea.s go through so 4 teams in final, but make it full 1-7s. But it wouldn't be the 4's then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 So how do they do the 14 home and away now with 13 teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 I thought the 3 extra fixtures where teams picked their opponents was introduced at AGM because Leicester were moving up to Elite and as there would be one less Premier club and therefore fewer fixtures. Now that Peterborough are joining the Premier, I assume the stupid pick your opponents for 3 extra matches will be dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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