Stoke Potters 2014

[boozer]

I always thought Vasey was his own man and no ones puppet. As Team Manager he surely would be involved in team selections, changes etc. Fact is he managed a team that finished rock bottom. How many teams in any sport would keep a Manager on after a season like 2013

 

It seems that some people think he is blameless and it's all down to the usual suspects.

[greyhoundp]

It seems that some people think he is blameless and it's all down to the usual suspects.

I certainly dont think he is blameless, however i do believe its time the leaseholder considers withdrawing from Promoting, of which he certainly is a proven failure, and concentrates on being a Landlord for The Stadium, and taking a regular rental income, for which he has more talent, and then allowing someone who has had considerable success as a Promoter in the past, to stand or fall by his own decisions. This could well be a win,win, win situation for Mr Tatum, Stoke Speedway, and supporters of Stoke Speedway.

[FAST GATER]

 

It seems that some people think he is blameless and it's all down to the usual suspects.

As you know Mr B I was one of MV fans when he came to Stoke and appeared to make all the right noises and even posted on the unofficial Fan's site with informative and honest views.What and why things changed I have no idea other than ultimately the old adage " he who pays the piper calls the tune" and we all know who that is at Stoke.I still believe that given the right support MV could make decent fist of running a team in the Nl and possible the PL but way things are going at Stoke we will be lucky to see anything other than Stock Cars sadly.

I certainly dont think he is blameless, however i do believe its time the leaseholder considers withdrawing from Promoting, of which he certainly is a proven failure, and concentrates on being a Landlord for The Stadium, and taking a regular rental income, for which he has more talent, and then allowing someone who has had considerable success as a Promoter in the past, to stand or fall by his own decisions. This could well be a win,win, win situation for Mr Tatum, Stoke Speedway, and supporters of Stoke Speedway.

Could not agree more but common sense and business acumen seem in very short supply there !!

[teddy2706]

In fairness to Mr. Tattum, he did come to a supporters forum social night, albeit uninvited.

He did have a conversation with some of us, but he brought someone with him who decided it was a better idea to shout at us, the same person who called Dudley supporters rude names and alienated them.

 

Sadly, that evening could have been the one opportunity to bury the hatchet and for Stoke Speedway to move forward because the person who was once Stoke speedway's biggest supporter was there too and he was in a position to pull together supporters once again.

Now he loathes Stoke speedway with an absolute passion and the mere mention of the club makes him venomous.

It seems to me that the only way Stoke Speedway can survive is if someone of the calibre of Mr. Machin took over from Mr. Tattum, even if the club remained NL but with aspirations to take the team back into PL.

[boozer]

It seems to me that the only way Stoke Speedway can survive is if someone of the calibre of Mr. Machin took over from Mr. Tattum, even if the club remained NL but with aspirations to take the team back into PL.

 

We can dream but in reality it will never happen, he will run it in to the ground until it closes, I honestly think he would do that before selling to anyone. A very sad individual with little big man syndrome.

[greyhoundp]

We can dream but in reality it will never happen, he will run it in to the ground until it closes, I honestly think he would do that before selling to anyone. A very sad individual with little big man syndrome.

I honestly hope you are wrong, bcuz in that scenario everyone would lose, not least Mr Tatum.

[Mike.Butler]

why don't Dudley move there to help out? oh no. maybe not.

[greyhoundp]

why don't Dudley move there to help out? oh no. maybe not.

We do on at least a couple of times, each season lol.

[teddy2706]

We do on at least a couple of times, each season lol.

I understand that Dudley, sorry, Cradley supporters who take the trouble to support their team at Stoke, thus adding to the gate receipts at Loomer rd. got called a rude word by a member of the Stoke staff in 2012?

Absolutely unforgiveable in my opinion.

Certainly the same person isn't afraid of calling Stoke supporters rude names.

[SCSA]

I understand that Dudley, sorry, Cradley supporters who take the trouble to support their team at Stoke, thus adding to the gate receipts at Loomer rd. got called a rude word by a member of the Stoke staff in 2012?

Absolutely unforgiveable in my opinion.

Certainly the same person isn't afraid of calling Stoke supporters rude names.

And he is the biggest problem at Stoke and its not Tattum.

[greyhoundp]

Im intrigued, i would have thought Mr T, would have been the main problem, is this person an ex rider ?.

[teddy2706]

Im intrigued, i would have thought Mr T, would have been the main problem, is this person an ex rider ?.

I choose not to comment on the grounds that he might start calling me rude names too.

[Mike.Butler]

talk about stoking the fire....

[boozer]

Crabby great rider for Stoke but the image has been tarnished.

[greyhoundp]

I didnt mention a name, but as i understood it the 3 main men at Stoke were/are Messrs Tatum, Vasey, and Crabtree, Now if you had said one of the fairer sex, then maybe i would have known who, but you didnt, so i come to the conclusion its an ex rider, as you said it wasnt Mr Tatum, its below Malcolm to do that, which leaves only one, anyways i hope Stoke have a better 2014.

[vog]

I didnt mention a name, but as i understood it the 3 main men at Stoke were/are Messrs Tatum, Vasey, and Crabtree, Now if you had said one of the fairer sex, then maybe i would have known who, but you didnt, so i come to the conclusion its an ex rider, as you said it wasnt Mr Tatum, its below Malcolm to do that, which leaves only one, anyways i hope Stoke have a better 2014.

 

Stoke have many problems, and frankly they will never get sorted. All that we can hope for is that somehow we get a team capable of challenging, but I highly doubt it. I know Malcolm hates losing, but you get the feeling his hands are often tied. Crowds get lower season on season, with more and more people not going back due to the custodians and the hangers on.

 

I'm finding it hard to get motivated for next season, especially having moved away from Stoke. I fear my visits will be less often than usual.

[Baldy]

 

Stoke have many problems, and frankly they will never get sorted. All that we can hope for is that somehow we get a team capable of challenging, but I highly doubt it. I know Malcolm hates losing, but you get the feeling his hands are often tied. Crowds get lower season on season, with more and more people not going back due to the custodians and the hangers on.

 

I'm finding it hard to get motivated for next season, especially having moved away from Stoke. I fear my visits will be less often than usual.

Quite right Vog. For many many years I have waited with eager anticipation for the riders to be announced and working the the combinations of positions in the team etc, but that motivation is gone now and unless speedway in general changes (how we can have some riders who were average to good National riders going into the Elite to "improve" the standard is beyond me) and Stoke dramatically change their outlook towards the public and the teams they put out then the flame will have gone. Of course with less people going then they have to cut the cloth accordingly; the cloth is looking threadbare and extremely small at present.

 

[Baldy]

 

 

Stoke have many problems, and frankly they will never get sorted. All that we can hope for is that somehow we get a team capable of challenging, but I highly doubt it. I know Malcolm hates losing, but you get the feeling his hands are often tied. Crowds get lower season on season, with more and more people not going back due to the custodians and the hangers on.

 

I'm finding it hard to get motivated for next season, especially having moved away from Stoke. I fear my visits will be less often than usual.

Quite right Vog. For many many years I have waited with eager anticipation for the riders to be announced and working the the combinations of positions in the team etc, but that motivation is gone now and unless speedway in general changes (how we can have some riders who were average to good National riders going into the Elite to "improve" the standard is beyond me) and Stoke dramatically change their outlook towards the public and the teams they put out then the flame will have gone. Of course with less people going then they have to cut the cloth accordingly; the cloth is looking threadbare and extremely small at present.

 

 

Quite right Vog. For many many years I have waited with eager anticipation for the riders to be announced and working the the combinations of positions in the team etc, but that motivation is gone now and unless speedway in general changes (how we can have some riders who were average to good National riders going into the Elite to "improve" the standard is beyond me) and Stoke dramatically change their outlook towards the public and the teams they put out then the flame will have gone. Of course with less people going then they have to cut the cloth accordingly; the cloth is looking threadbare and extremely small at present.

[teddy2706]

My friend Vog, who works for MI5, has come up with a really cunning plan to slash costs in National League speedway:

 

To replace the top riders who have been seconded to race each other in the Elite League, Vog thinks they should be replaced by older men who were once well admired by spectators for their style, competitive spirit, panache and gritty determination.

As they would be eligible for bus passes, the travel costs to prospective promoters would be non-existant.

So if you are returning from a holiday in Cornwall on the bus, please bear with John Louis, Dave Jessup, Bruce Cribb, Colin Pratt, Len Silver, Glyn Taylor and Arthur Browning as they drag filthy old 2 valve Jawas and 5 stud Japs into the bus along with their tools, leathers and open face helmets.

Be careful that the open primary drive doesn't rip open or smear oil onto your bags or cases and you will have to simply put up with the pools of Castrol 'R' leaking from total loss lubrication systems.

Be very careful that you don't upset them either, because Arthur and Bruce in particular can be quite liverish if they don't win.

They will have been riding at Plymouth and returning home at little or no cost to the promotion.

This plan, worthy of a civil servant for its parsimonious meanness, will certainly appeal to the promotion at Loomer rd. and may catch on everywhere.

Edited December 17, 2013 by oldsparky

[horneymikh]

My friend Vog, who works for MI5, has come up with a really cunning plan to slash costs in National League speedway:

 

To replace the top riders who have been seconded to race each other in the Elite League, Vog thinks they should be replaced by older men who were once well admired by spectators for their style, competitive spirit, panache and gritty determination.

As they would be eligible for bus passes, the travel costs to prospective promoters would be non-existant.

So if you are returning from a holiday in Cornwall on the bus, please bear with John Louis, Dave Jessup, Bruce Cribb, Colin Pratt, Len Silver, Glyn Taylor and Arthur Browning as they drag filthy old 2 valve Jawas and 5 stud Japs into the bus along with their tools, leathers and open face helmets.

Be careful that the open primary drive doesn't rip open or smear oil onto your bags or cases and you will have to simply put up with the pools of Castrol 'R' leaking from total loss lubrication systems.

Be very careful that you don't upset them either, because Arthur and Bruce in particular can be quite liverish if they don't win.

They will have been riding at Plymouth and returning home at little or no cost to the promotion.

This plan, worthy of a civil servant for its parsimonious meanness, will certainly appeal to the promotion at Loomer rd. and may catch on everywhere.

I'd start going again if it was that team...