Mike.Butler Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Sound. I have always enjoyed my visits to Loomer Road..So get some local supporters on board, spruce it up as best one can at cheap cost and then importantly get the track right. It's a central location and ideal for me when returning from footy up north on a Saturday during the spring/autumn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P T Preece Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I quite like Stoke, am I right in thinking they lease the stadium, always found the staff to be friendly, the bogs are what they bogs, really need sorting. Qyite enjoy the racing its not the greatest, but it is NL level. Just glad there running, be up there a lot next season as Leicester have gone EL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I quite like Stoke, am I right in thinking they lease the stadium, always found the staff to be friendly, the bogs are what they bogs, really need sorting. Qyite enjoy the racing its not the greatest, but it is NL level. Just glad there running, be up there a lot next season as Leicester have gone EL. If a you suggest the speedway club just lease for their meetings from a freeholder/owner then it is up to the latter to improve facilities. All Stoke are responsible - as are the other tenants Startrax - is the condition of the track and their own immediate-use facilities. Too many speedway promoters get the blame for stadium facilities when in fact it is not the direct responsibility. All the speedway people can do is request improvements from their landlord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 If a you suggest the speedway club just lease for their meetings from a freeholder/owner then it is up to the latter to improve facilities. All Stoke are responsible - as are the other tenants Startrax - is the condition of the track and their own immediate-use facilities. Too many speedway promoters get the blame for stadium facilities when in fact it is not the direct responsibility. All the speedway people can do is request improvements from their landlord. I am fairly certain the promotion at Stoke lease the stadium 24/7 52 weeks of the year and are responsible for the condition of track and stadium in general ,they also I am lead to believe sublet to the stox.I think they can take full credit for the presentation of what was once one of the best tracks in the country now resembling a bomb site . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy2706 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) I am fairly certain the promotion at Stoke lease the stadium 24/7 52 weeks of the year and are responsible for the condition of track and stadium in general ,they also I am lead to believe sublet to the stox.I think they can take full credit for the presentation of what was once one of the best tracks in the country now resembling a bomb site . That is my understanding too FG. My belief is that the buck stops with the promotion. Admittedly, it is difficult to re-invest and rejuvenate with the receipt from a small crowd, but is the small gate receipt directly attributable to the promotion? You are quite right too; it was once one of the best tracks in the country at any level of the sport. The promoters have had many opportunities to meet with the disaffected supporters and listen to their grievances, but choose not to, a very sad state of affairs indeed. Edited December 4, 2013 by oldsparky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 The first thing they need to invest in is a few ton of shale, then the track curator has something to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy2706 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 A friend of mine who is a Stock car fan says that at a recent meeting, drivers complained that their cars were being damaged because of the track surface and he also said that part of the track lighting wasn't working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydrobob Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 There's been an issue with the Stoke track among F1 stockcar drivers all season because of the bumps, holes and the turn 3 "trench". Can't say I'd fancy it on a bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 That Malc Vasey must have the a rabbits foot, 4 leaf Clover, Horse shoe etc tucked under his cap, to have kept his job. Since he joined he has taken them from respectable mid table Premier League side to a rock Bottom National League side. Poor Old Martin Jol wasnt even bottom and he got the order of the tin tack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boozer Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) That Malc Vasey must have the a rabbits foot, 4 leaf Clover, Horse shoe etc tucked under his cap, to have kept his job. Since he joined he has taken them from respectable mid table Premier League side to a rock Bottom National League side. Poor Old Martin Jol wasnt even bottom and he got the order of the tin tack. When he was brought in I got sick of reading the praises that were bestowed on him as if he were god, it seems he turned out to be a turkey and a stuffed one at that, never liked the bloke and never will. I suppose you could say he has found the right place to be at Stoke he fits right in with the other clowns who run the gaff, those being the know alls who know nothing but think they know everthing and if you don't agree with them you will get a mouthful. Edited December 5, 2013 by boozer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCSA Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) But when he was brought in I got sick of reading the praises that were bestowed on him as if he were god, it seems he turned out to be a turkey and a stuffed one at that, never liked the bloke and never will. I suppose you could say he has found the right place to be at Stoke he fits right in with the other clowns who run the gaff, those being the know alls who know nothing but think they know everthing and if you don't agree with them you will get a mouthful. The bloke is a flunky and nothing else, can't see past the end of his nose that he's being used, the place is rotten to the core, as someone else has said the damage to Stoke speedwaty has been done by the people who operate the place. Edited December 5, 2013 by SCSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Lay off Malcolm guys, he,s a good man, and cant be held responsible for any of stokes problems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCSA Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Lay off Malcolm guys, he,s a good man, and cant be held responsible for any of stokes problems You are right HE, is not to blame. Edited December 6, 2013 by SCSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boozer Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Not quite sure how you work that one out Vasey is a co-promoter at Stoke so by definition that means he co-promotes the crap that is served up, when a team does well the promoters and the team manager get all the praise but in your opinion non of it is his fault even though his is co-promoter and full team manager. Maybe you could enlighten me how you arrive at that conclusion. Edited December 6, 2013 by boozer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 i spent the first part of a night with Malcolm on the sleeper from St.Austell. Seemed to know what he was talking about.admittedly quite a while ago.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) I know this is Stoke 2014, and as such Malcolm is part of that, Malcolms record in the NL prior to joining Stoke was good, in his 1st season in the NL with Stoke they were for the most part of the season challenging for Honours, since then things have resumed in a downward trend, culminating in them finishing bottom of the NL in 2013, and not completing there fixtures. Stoke speedway needs a shot in the arm, begining with Messrs Tatum withdrawing from the Speedway side of the Stadium, and Malcolm Vasey taking overall control of the Speedway operation. Things may then begin to look up, because though Malcolm appears too be manager and joint promoter, i do believe he is trying to work under constraints imposed by others, for instance Liam Carr was apparently not re signed due to the promotion allegedly not wanting to pay his travel costs, but Buxton can, what does that say about Stoke Speedway ?. I do worry about the future for Stoke Speedway while the current incumbants continue to have a major say in how it is run, On behalf of many Stoke fans, i ask Mr Tatum to seriously consider his position at Stoke Speedway, and consider leasing the Speedway side of things to either Malcolm Vasey or other persons, who would bring a more positive outlook to the promotion of the Sport, Im sure there are people out there who would be willing to come on board.b Stoke is a fine little Stadium which has been allowed to be dragged down to the point of almost NO return. From the financial side of things, surely its better that Mr Tatum and Co take a regular rent from the Speedway, rather than continue to struggle as THE promoter, and facing loses year in year out, and becoming something of a butt for peoples jokes, I dont doubt that Mr Tatum has the interests of Stoke Speedway at heart, and wants to see them winning, however it is apparent to almost every Speedway supporter in general, and Stoke fans in particular, that he does not have there confidence to carry out that role, and has been pretty poor in recent seasons, due mainly to decisions he has taken, and supporters have shown there displeasure by staying away, that CANT continue. Edited December 6, 2013 by greyhoundp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy bill Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 just going to Buxton instead of Stoke i changed to Buxton a few years ago but used to go to both, but Stoke went scruffy and down hill but sadly this is catching Buxton toilets are bad often no paper in the ladies only one toilet block .The track not always prepared so the riders can get bround safe some times its good but often it is under prepared.The tracktor seems reluctant to come on track and some weeks we cant see for dust i hope next year they improve also get the paint brushes out brighten the place up thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTB Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Is it Malcolm or his ponytail who's in charge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) I agree Malcolm Vaseys got his faults like we all have but what you can't fault is his enthusiasm and dedication to the sport and particularly the 3rd Division. Dave Tattum holds the reins at Stoke and from what I can gather Macolm Vasey only works within Tattums constraints! Haven't been to Stoke for quite a while but it seems theirs problems there and the place needs a change of speedway ownership to give it a necessary shot in the arm! When an established Premier League track drops its 1st team into the next League down theres bound to be quite a few fans who won't take the drop down lightly and stop going. This is why when a club does drop down it has to run really well and progressively with strong team and a reasonable investment in trying to improve or at least maintain track, facilities and presentation standards. From watching from afar this is what seems to be happening at Stoke. Edited December 7, 2013 by 25yearfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 I always thought Vasey was his own man and no ones puppet. As Team Manager he surely would be involved in team selections, changes etc. Fact is he managed a team that finished rock bottom. How many teams in any sport would keep a Manager on after a season like 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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