Ben91 Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 There's a lot of negativity on this thread and lots of it I haven't witnessed first hand so cannot comment. But one thing I am sure of is you'd rather have some speedway, even if it drives you crazy, than none at all! Whilst that is true to a degree that cannot be an excuse for promotors (not aimed at Stoke here, the sport in general) to hold fans to ransom by offering a poor product then saying "well it's better than us pulling the plug." To make your business successful you have to maintain a customer/fan base, not expect them to be there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Whilst that is true to a degree that cannot be an excuse for promotors (not aimed at Stoke here, the sport in general) to hold fans to ransom by offering a poor product then saying "well it's better than us pulling the plug." To make your business successful you have to maintain a customer/fan base, not expect them to be there. Yes I completely agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 There's a lot of negativity on this thread and lots of it I haven't witnessed first hand so cannot comment. But one thing I am sure of is you'd rather have some speedway, even if it drives you crazy, than none at all! Read Vog's post, Matt. Take it from me, there are few as passionate about Stoke Speedway as he is (or I should say was). If he is giving up going, that means he has lost interest to the extent that if it does close he won't miss it that much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil H Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 As was said to me when I stopped going to Stoke after a 'word' from the promotion "missing the first meeting is the hardest, it gets easier after that". The next Saturday night, we were sitting having a drink at a canalside pub instead of standing on the terraces at Loomer Road and I haven't seen a meeting there since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldy Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Whilst that is true to a degree that cannot be an excuse for promotors (not aimed at Stoke here, the sport in general) to hold fans to ransom by offering a poor product then saying "well it's better than us pulling the plug." To make your business successful you have to maintain a customer/fan base, not expect them to be there. I could not agree more. After watching at Stoke mainly but at other tracks as well since 1978; I came to the conclusion last year that speedway wasn't offering what I want and saw just one meeting all year. Not missed it at all and plough all my spare cash it to going from Stoke to Reading to watch London Irish play Union and going to their away games ( mostly closer to me !!). I check on here regularly to see if things with speedway will change but no. For me, if we had seven equally ( as close as you can) level riders racing in teams against each other I would be back in a flash as there is no finer sight. Too many strung out races to justify my attendance and money. I wish that it long continues for those that follow it with a passion but for me "bad" speedway is not better than no speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I could not agree more. After watching at Stoke mainly but at other tracks as well since 1978; I came to the conclusion last year that speedway wasn't offering what I want and saw just one meeting all year. Not missed it at all and plough all my spare cash it to going from Stoke to Reading to watch London Irish play Union and going to their away games ( mostly closer to me !!). I check on here regularly to see if things with speedway will change but no. For me, if we had seven equally ( as close as you can) level riders racing in teams against each other I would be back in a flash as there is no finer sight. Too many strung out races to justify my attendance and money. I wish that it long continues for those that follow it with a passion but for me "bad" speedway is not better than no speedway. I for many years said any speedway was better than none but have for sometime now changed my mind ,it in fact damages the sport that is dying on it's feet . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iannewsman Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I have been a speedway fan since 1969 and the product today is just so sub-standard that I agree with others, any speedway is not better than no speedway and Stoke proves the point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Haven't enjoyed my last 2 trips to Loomer Road, because the track had very little shale on it, & was poorly prepared. Can live with the sticky carpet in the bar, & filthy toilets if the action on the track is good. If the current owners did walk away, I don't think there would be many people prepared to take over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 So sad to see how far stoke has been run down. The track used to be one of the best prepared in the late 80s. Get the product right and many punters will ignore the state of the stadium. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 I for many years said any speedway was better than none but have for sometime now changed my mind ,it in fact damages the sport that is dying on it's feet . I think that any speedway is better than no speedway. But I don't believe that it ever needs to be a case of any speedway, and that is really the point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokielee Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) I think the point is that what is served up at most tracks these days is not Speedway in many people's book. It is boring and processional rubbish on poorly prepared tracks. Sadly the racing at Loomer Rd. is nothing like as good as it used to be. Edited March 9, 2014 by Stokielee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) So sad to see how far stoke has been run down. The track used to be one of the best prepared in the late 80s. Get the product right and many punters will ignore the state of the stadium. True but this is 2014 and the product and the demands of fans has changed NL racing ( with "ALL" due respect) bares no resemblance to the racing we enjoyed then at Stoke and in this day and age a decent basic facilities aren't much to ask for. Edited March 9, 2014 by FAST GATER 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy2706 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Anyone who enjoys grasstrack is treated to temporary facilities equal to, or better than Stoke's permanent ones. In this day and age there is no excuse for poor toilet facilities, unimaginative catering and poor bar choices at a permanent stadium. But in conjunction with a poorly prepared track, lighting issues that could see someone killed, illegal working practices involving tractors and equipment and a marked reluctance to complete fifteen heats of racing in less than two and a half hours ( I assume to swell the bar takings), what is actually left to enjoy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCSA Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Moan and whinge as much as you want people it falls on deaf ears. Those down at the speedway in Stoke absolutely hate criticism because they do no wrong in their own eyes, as long as they can make enough for a wage its all that matters, so if as supporters you desire a friendly welcome, pristine toilets and corden bleu cuisine then a visit to the dead end road in Staffordshire is well worth NOT a visit. The place is a joke operated by jokers, albiet clever ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) Moan and whinge as much as you want people it falls on deaf ears. Those down at the speedway in Stoke absolutely hate criticism because they do no wrong in their own eyes, as long as they can make enough for a wage its all that matters, so if as supporters you desire a friendly welcome, pristine toilets and corden bleu cuisine then a visit to the dead end road in Staffordshire is well worth NOT a visit. The place is a joke operated by jokers, albiet clever ones. It seems odd that the management would go to the trouble of running a s/way team when clearly the money spinner is the Stock cars/Bangers and the speedway is treated a poor and irrating " relation" as it were. Edited March 14, 2014 by FAST GATER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craftman Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 It seems odd that the management would go to the trouble of running a s/way team when clearly the money spinner is the Stock cars/Bangers and the speedway is treated a poor and irrating " relation" as it were. About says it all really ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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