British Speedway Promoters Meeting

[orion]

He doesn't go, the actual list has more than 20 riders on it, in case of such things happening. Blackbird has declared that he won't accept it, but there will be plenty who will I should think.

ok never seen the list ..have you got the link so I can see it ? What happens when a rider 3 weeks in after the draft decides not to ride ? will this list have a rider of the same standard on it not already picked to replaced him ?

[foamfence]

ok never seen the list ..have you got the link so I can see it ? What happens when a rider 3 weeks in after the draft decides not to ride ? will this list have a rider of the same standard on it not already picked to replaced him ?

There isn't a link, Phil Morris said he has already compiled the list and it has extra names on it, in Speedway Star.

[pandorum]

Why should promoters invest heavily in training young riders who could be snatched from them at a later date to comply with the overall team average of that period?

If I was a promoter, my essential interest would be on making a profit on my investment not paying to train young riders. I would try to provide facilities for them to practice but that would be at a cost for use of the facilities I would provide at such sessions.

That is sadly a very fair point

Edited November 24, 2013 by pandorum

[MattK]

After just checking Twitter, it would seem Lewis might be changing his mind, after Phil Morris gave him a call and explained everything.

 

So the BSPA enforcer has had a word in Blackbird's shell-like and suddenly everyone is happy!

[foamfence]

So the BSPA enforcer has had a word in Blackbird's shell-like and suddenly everyone is happy!

Yup!

[Tom Turner]

It's simple, I won't be attending speedway in Britain next year and would urge others to do the same.

 

I will save my money and travel to a Polish Ekstraliga match or two.

[foamfence]

It's simple, I won't be attending speedway in Britain next year and would urge others to do the same.

 

I will save my money and travel to a Polish Ekstraliga match or two.

So you'd prefer it if British Speedway went bankrupt and died out? Don't forget that Boro lost money EVERY season and Sheffield are yet to find a buyer, People staying away will only lead to shut-down.

[Jonny the spud]

Just checking the Ipswich witches website under sponsorship. It's calculated that each meeting costs a rider a minimum of £195 to race. That doesn't include diesel to get there or any major breakages in terms of accidents etc. in my personal experience that's not too far from the truth. Throw in the cost of a mechanic, plus the expense of upgrading kit to be competetive at elite league level and it gives you a rough idea of what Brits are up against if the proposed £40 limit is true. At the moment it's a case of wait and see but just replacing foreigners with young British riders should not be looked at by the clubs as a money saving excercise but as an investment in the future.

[Tom Turner]

So you'd prefer it if British Speedway went bankrupt and died out? Don't forget that Boro lost money EVERY season and Sheffield are yet to find a buyer, People staying away will only lead to shut-down.

 

No of course I wouldn't. What a stupid thing to say.

 

It is not mine, or any other consumers job to fund a sport dying at the hands of foolish and ignorant promoters who live in a dream world of their own. I would prefer it if British Speedway addressed the real issues rather than make stupid changes that will result in a poorer product for the consumer.

 

However, I fear it will take a complete shut down before promoters will realise their mistakes.

Edited November 24, 2013 by Synikalle

[foamfence]

No of course I wouldn't. What a stupid thing to say.

 

I would prefer it if British Speedway addressed the real issues rather than make stupid changes that will result in a poorer product for the consumer.

 

However, I fear it will take a complete shut down before promoters will realise their mistakes.

You've seen what they are doing, they aren't going to go back on that, you can't change it and encouraging others to boycott it won't help anything. Personally I'd rather watch a few young Brits having a go than watch two teams of foreigners seeing who has the fastest bike on a giant slick track, but each to their own.

[Tom Turner]

You've seen what they are doing, they aren't going to go back on that, you can't change it and encouraging others to boycott it won't help anything. Personally I'd rather watch a few young Brits having a go than watch two teams of foreigners seeing who has the fastest bike on a giant slick track, but each to their own.

 

You can't change anything with that attitude.

 

If you continue to attend you will allow a lower standard of product to become a precedent.

 

The promoters are refusing to listen to us. They seem to think being a promoter makes them a celebrity and that nobody know's better than they do. And now look whats happened. The decisions the promoters have made do not support growth, they only support very limited retention. That is no way to run a business and is a recipe for disaster.

 

It's time to speak with actions, not with words. The promoters have nobody to blame but themselves.

Edited November 24, 2013 by Synikalle

[foamfence]

You can't change anything with that attitude.

 

If you continue to attend you will allow a lower standard of product to become a precedent.

 

The promoters are refusing to listen to us. They seem to think being a promoter makes them a celebrity and that nobody know's better than they do. And now look whats happened.

 

It's time to speak with actions, not with words. The promoters have nobody to blame but themselves.

The promoters are offering what they can afford to offer. Being a promoter means that they are taking the risks! The new set-up can help British riders, lessen the dependence on foreign riders and hopefully mean that everyone can afford to carry on. They might not be offering what YOU want, but I wan't to give it a fair go. Trying to blackmail them by staying away won't suddenly make them wan't to risk everything on more expensive options, that's already been tried and it lead to this.

[Tom Turner]

The promoters are offering what they can afford to offer. Being a promoter means that they are taking the risks! The new set-up can help British riders, lessen the dependence on foreign riders and hopefully mean that everyone can afford to carry on. They might not be offering what YOU want, but I wan't to give it a fair go. Trying to blackmail them by staying away won't suddenly make them wan't to risk everything on more expensive options, that's already been tried and it lead to this.

 

No this is completely wrong. You are a prime example of everything wrong with British Speedway.

 

They do not need to take expensive measures at all! There are many entirely free marketing options that would help increase attendances across the UK without a doubt. I work for a marketing company which boasts an impressive array of clients and case studies. British Speedway does NOTHING in the form of marketing, or at least nothing of value.

 

Speedway is a brilliant and exciting sport! There is nothing wrong with it except the complete lack of hype and knowledge. I have never met a single person my age who is familiar with speedway and that is the real issue. The die hard older generation will keep attending, so forget about them! We need to focus each and every one of our efforts on targeting new fans aged 12 - 30.

 

The BSPA need to stop resting on their laurels as they are clearly not working. Audiences are overwhelmingly of an older generation and in years to come there will be no new blood in the sport to take over when they are no longer around.

 

If the BSPA were to set up a designated marketing team who could handle the offline aspect of advertising and most crucially of all the online aspect of social media and advertising it would only take a very minimal contribution from each club. This alone could double audiences within just a couple of years!

 

Reducing the quality of the product to minimize costs is not the way forward! It's like moving your straw around the bottom of the cup to suck up the last few drops when really it need's a refill.

 

If you'd like to pretend these issues don't exist then be my guest, the BSPA have been doing it for the last 10 years

Edited November 24, 2013 by Synikalle

[Trees]

It's simple, I won't be attending speedway in Britain next year and would urge others to do the same.

 

I will save my money and travel to a Polish Ekstraliga match or two.

You're on your own m8, I can't wait for March :-)

 

If you have the answer to our sport get involved! I've no money to invest or I would get involved and try to make a difference. As it is I'll just keep on attending British speedway and enjoy watching the racing on show!

Edited November 24, 2013 by Trees

[Tom Turner]

You're on your own m8, I can't wait for March :-)

 

Oh dear, do you really believe that for one second? You couldn't be more wrong.

Edited November 24, 2013 by Synikalle

[Trees]

OK, perhaps I should add, afa I am concerned!

Edited November 24, 2013 by Trees

[Tom Turner]

OK, perhaps I should add, afa I am concerned!

 

I love the sport with a passion, but I feel this is my last opportunity to protest. Actions speak far louder than words.

[Trees]

Can't you talk to your local promoter instead, perhaps he can give you an insight into why these decisions have been made? And try to do some sort of deal with them to make a difference yourself to British speedway?

[foamfence]

No this is completely wrong. You are a prime example of everything wrong with British Speedway.

 

They do not need to take expensive measures at all! There are many entirely free marketing options that would help increase attendances across the UK without a doubt. I work for a marketing company which boasts an impressive array of clients and case studies. British Speedway does NOTHING in the form of marketing, or at least nothing of value.

 

Speedway is a brilliant and exciting sport! There is nothing wrong with it except the complete lack of hype and knowledge. I have never met a single person my age who is familiar with speedway and that is the real issue.

 

The BSPA need to stop resting on their laurels as they are clearly not working. Audiences are overwhelmingly of an older generation and in years to come there will be no new blood in the sport to take over when they are no longer around.

 

If the BSPA were to set up a designated marketing team who could handle the offline aspect of advertising and most crucially of all the online aspect of social media and advertising it would only take a very minimal contribution from each club. This alone could double audiences within just a couple of years!

 

Reducing the quality of the product to minimize costs is not the way forward! It's like moving your straw around the bottom of the cup to suck up the last few drops when really it need's a refill.

 

If you'd like to pretend these issues don't exist then be my guest, the BSPA have been doing it for the last 10 years and look where they are now

That's all supposition and maybe's, they have taken steps to address the current problems. They aren't necessarily reducing the quality of the racing , everyone reckons that PL racing is more interesting and exciting than EL, but in most cases the riders are of a lower ranking. I see that you appear to support Poole, don't judge the other clubs by their standards, most other clubs have less crowds, lower potential catchment areas and are totally inaccessible to anyone who doesn't have their own transport. Anyway I'll let you have the last word, or is it "moan"?

[proud panther]

So Koscuich gets £100 + a point, air fares paid, a van, a mechanic to ride at reserve, but a British youngster is only worth £40 a point. Get rid of the GP riders if you want to save money, & stop pretending that this is being done to help them. Nothing against Norbi by the way, just using him as an example.