TheSmiler Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 And i bet admission prices will still remain at £17... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 MY understanding is that the heats involving NL riders will be "protected" which presumably means they will only race against each other...So basically the fans will be paying the same money for roughly a 70% EL meeting and a 30% NL meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 It's great for Poole thou, keep a strong top 5 then cherry pick the best nl riders rather than having to pick weak reserves because of using most of there points on the top 5 . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 MY understanding is that the heats involving NL riders will be "protected" which presumably means they will only race against each other... So what happens if a 1 to 5 rider is excluded, or gets injured during the match, I assume a 1 to 5 rider will always now go off 15m for a tape offence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmuncie Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I feel for Elite League fans who will no doubt be expected to pay the same if not more than this season to watch a 2/3 el and 1/3 nl match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G the Bee Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 As far as I can see, they had a real chance (yet again) to do something positive. Instead we've got some sort of halfway house designed to try to cut costs by lowering the points limit yet retaining the GP stars. SCB has just predicted Poole's top 4. I suspect, if averages allow, they'll stick Mikkel Bech in there with Holder, Ward, Josh G and Kyle N. All they'll have to do is make sure they have a couple of half-decent NL reserves (who do not even seem to have averages) and they will stroll to the title again! Kings Lynn, if they can keep Robert Lambert will have one of the top heat leaders in Iversen and the top NL rider. If there is no NL points limit ascribed to the reserve positions, essentially these rules mean you can build the strongest 1-5 possible and also have the best reserves in the league. The usual team-building scenario of a weaker 1-5 being off set by a stronger reserve pairing (Bham this year for example) has gone out of the window. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) Any idea when the statement is? 7.00 PM tonight? As always you are well informed! After the way you looked after the Syria Civil War crisis in General Discussions plus your revelation that this work won you a journalistic award I have every confidence in this comment re the BSPA AGM statement. I have set my alarm for 7pm. I am looking at 5.33pm as Hougaard Racing Fans said the statement will be released at 7pm. Are we sure of the authenticity of the release that is attracting so much debate at the moment? Surely he didn't get it wrong - maybe we are in the wrong international Time Zone? Edited November 17, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 What happens if a National League rider is riding or signed for a Premier Team and doubles up for an Elite team, if there is a clash of fixtures does the Premier Team have first call on his services? If the Elite reserve is injured will you have reserve guests? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I bet it was suggested to move to just 12 heats to save money and then someone else said let's fill those race with nl riders and things developed... Went downhill from there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJC71 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) I would say I'm staggered but I'm not really. The BSPA should not be allowed to get together every year without someone with one iota of common sense to supervise. Take Lewis Kerr as an example. Assuming he doesn't ride NL next season does this rule him out of the EL unless he rides top 5? It would appear so. How the hell does that develop young British riders? And if the NL riders only ride against each other then same question. How does that help them progress? It would make much more sense if the rule was two Brits at reserve in the EL and two NL riders at reserve in the PL but I'm afraid the BSPA don't do common sense. God knows how the EL averages will be calculated. As for the PL well 14 into 12 doesn't work so better prepare ourselves for some rediculous rule which sees teams ride against two teams twice. Jesus. Every year the BSPA get together and come up with a new load of rules which are not thought out and almost always massively unpopular with the supporters. Do they really wonder why crowds are decreasing year on year. Total vote of no confidence in the BSPA from me . An absolute joke. Edited November 17, 2013 by NJC71 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I am looking at 5.33pm and Hougaard Racing Fans said the statement will be released at 7pm. Are we sure of the authenticity of the release that is attracting so much debate at the moment? Surely he didn't get it wrong - maybe we are in the wrong international Time Zone? It's on the BSPA web site, unless it's been hacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 MY understanding is that the heats involving NL riders will be "protected" which presumably means they will only race against each other... They had something along these lines in the Bundesliga a few years back and are doing it this year in the development league with 250cc riders.One of the problems is even at this level is the standard can be quite big and it was often the case that 1 rider won all 4 heats and 1 rider came last in all 4...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Utter shambles.... Protect our pocket and shaft the fans... Only glad my club is PL How is this going to develop NL riders blobby?? That is what the NL is for surely?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 MY understanding is that the heats involving NL riders will be "protected" which presumably means they will only race against each other... Brilliant. So I'm now paying more than I did last year to watch National League speedway now that we've been promoted into the Elite league. Is it just me who's seriously missed something here? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJC71 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Utter shambles.... Protect our pocket and shaft the fans... Only glad my club is PL How is this going to develop NL riders blobby?? That is what the NL is for surely?? In the old world riders would start in the NL and then move up to the PL and then finally to the EL - when they are good enough. This is about cutting costs it has absolutely nothing to do with developing British riders which the BSPA have never given a toss about. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Laughing stock..... Be interesting to gauge crowds next season.... They could lose even more than these cuts will save, if fans vote with their feet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skthecat Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I just wonder if its a tactic to try and "force" some youg British talent through over a "single mad" season........? Perhaps it might work? Instead of NL riders getting bogged down in premier league teams, season after season, the ones with a bit more ambition, might be able to take the bigger step up. If you go back to the 60's / 70's you didn't have British League reserves getting mega silly points at reserve, you probably now won't see a heat leader out of form deliberatley getting excluded, as there wont be the big reserve there to replace them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Someone has just put on Twitter, that the NL reserves will be graded A & B and those will be allocated to the teams by the Management Committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Utter shambles.... Protect our pocket and shaft the fans... Only glad my club is PL How is this going to develop NL riders blobby?? That is what the NL is for surely?? Took longer than i thought for someone to bite! But seriously though it is joke and is NOT for the better of the sport that is for sure! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Shaker Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I think it will do gates in the Premier League no end of good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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