BluPanther Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 And the USA? How many creditable riders do they have in their line-up? This is a country that BEAT us, so rather than make me 'clueless' it is actually very relevant to your claim that nobody could do better. Now it's a simple question and one which you are refusing to answer isn't it. That's because he cant, there is no credible evidence to support his argument, hence all you will get is blue tinted waffle... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Not to bothered by the Middlo,resignation not the man for the job. Rarely works with any British riders, I suspect that he is only successful because he is the Poole Team Manager, not proven in any other job. In fact Rosco has better credentials than Middlo. The job will go to Phil Morris, but if I could have anyone I would have Peter Adams. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I'd go Rosco or Morris but with Morris already assistant to Middlo its the natural progression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockney Rebel Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Work it our for yourself, its not rocket science. Anybody who says Phil Morris Rosco or uncle tom cobbly will do better is definately barking up the wrong tree. Ah! Now there's a team that might just do it, Bill Brewer, Jan Stewer, Peter Gurney, Peter Davey, Dannul Whiddon, Harry Hawk and UncleTom Cobbly. At least they all stayed on Tom Pearce's Grey Mare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 You've worked it out, Ha Ha, thats a larf. Tai Woffinden is the only creditable rider in that line up. The rest you might as well not bother with.. You cite one country that proves your clueless. Now what you been saying ..you made it clear that no one could do better hence why people are asking you about the us team ...just answer the question who do think is the better side is Team Gb or the USA side .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 As a staunch Swindon fan, please not Rosco. He needs to learn some etiquette and not to make embarrassing comments on TV. He is a motivator for sure, but you need more than that to manage a team. The trouble is, we simply do not have the firepower in this country. Peter Adams is a fine choice, but even he won't be successful. Currently we have Woffinden who can win races and pretty much no one else. The cupboard is bare and although we have the odd youngster coming through, Lambert, and to a much lesser extent, Gerrity, the future is definitely not bright. We will struggle to compete with the USA, Finland and such like i'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) As a staunch Swindon fan, please not Rosco. He needs to learn some etiquette and not to make embarrassing comments on TV. He is a motivator for sure, but you need more than that to manage a team. The trouble is, we simply do not have the firepower in this country. Peter Adams is a fine choice, but even he won't be successful. Currently we have Woffinden who can win races and pretty much no one else. The cupboard is bare and although we have the odd youngster coming through, Lambert, and to a much lesser extent, Gerrity, the future is definitely not bright. We will struggle to compete with the USA, Finland and such like i'm afraid. Who cares what people say on tv if you get the results ...the point being made by many is no matter what riders we have we can do better with the right person the same as any sport really . Edited November 13, 2013 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Really glad no more Middlo for team GB. Shocking decisions and attitude Will be nice to have a manager who supports british riders instead of just Australian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) Work it out for yourself. That team is NOT good enough to compete on the World stage. Simple as that.yes it is.... Not good enough to win, but certainly to compete.....god you do talk some blinkered, bias, defensive garbage....you'll bet telling us middlo has just been for a haircut next Edited November 13, 2013 by Arson fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 yes it is.... Not good enough to win, but certainly to compete.....god you do talk some blinkered, bias, defensive garbage....you'll bet telling us middlo has just been for a haircut next Won't cost him much. :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Now what you been saying ..you made it clear that no one could do better hence why people are asking you about the us team ...just answer the question who do think is the better side is Team Gb or the USA side .. Orion dear boy. The US have beat us once, and they will do it again, we have nobody creditable enough bar Tai. Bridger aint good enough and needs to take his head out of his own backside, nors Barker, he needs to keep his trap shut and consentrate on riding a speedway bike, i like barker as a rider, and not the other Barker. Cook is still learning, Harris will get no better. Danny King and Eddie Kennet are in the same catagory. and i don't think Scott Nicholls would be interested in riding for Team GB anymore. We are no more a force on the World stage and won't be. We had our best chance in 04 when the riders were at their peak, we don't have the grounding or the set up they have in Poland Denmark and the Aussies for example, We don't have the class, or depth of riders. we do not have the interest in Speedway that the poles and Danes have. A lot of the british kids, think they know it all, and are not prepared to listen. Those that do listen and have a bit of abillity cannot obtain the sponsorship which they need. So, You and your other so called team managers can say what you like, but i will be proved right, we have a very long tail, Neil was on a hiding to nothing, and the new man will be in the same boat. I dare Phil Morris to come on here and disagree with my statement. And i will, remember this conversation.. Yes I think I do. A team manager is like any other manager when it comes to handling his team members - or employees if you like. I know a fair bit about management as it happens - and Middleditch certainly did not fulfil his role in the way he handled the team selection for the WTC or the way he handled "dropped" team members. Putting aside the woeful results - do you really think that he could not have handled his team any better? You may, know a bit about management, but you have no idea how to manage a speedway team. and you certainly would not do any better. Many on here can talk the talk but could never, walk the walk... As i said in my above post, Neil was on a hiding to nothing, and any man taking the job on will be in the same boat. WE DO NOT HAVE THE CLASS OR DEPTH OF RIDER, i hope that helps. Night Night, Team Managers... Edited November 14, 2013 by Starman2006 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Orion dear boy. The US have beat us once, and they will do it again, we have nobody creditable enough bar Tai. Bridger aint good enough and needs to take his head out of his own backside, nors Barker, he needs to keep his trap shut and consentrate on riding a speedway bike, i like barker as a rider, and not the other Barker. Cook is still learning, Harris will get no better. Danny King is in the same catagory. and i don't think Scott Nicholls would be interested in riding for Team GB anymore. We are no more a force on the World stage and won't be. we don't have the grounding or the set up they have in Poland and Denmark for example, We don't have the class, or depth of riders. So, You and your other so called team managers can say what you like, but i will be proved right, Neil was on a hiding to nothing, and the new man will be in the same boat. I dare Phil Morris to come on here and disagree with my statement. And i will, remember this conversation.. You may, know a bit about management, but you have no idea how to manage a speedway team. and you certainly would not do any better. Many on here can talk the talk but could never, walk the walk... As i said in my above post, Neil was on a hiding to nothing, and any man taking the job on will be in the same boat. WE DO NOT HAVE THE CLASS OR DEPTH OF RIDER, i hope that helps. Night Night, Team Managers... Does anyone know what happened to the poster also known as Starman, that spent his time taking the p!ss out of other posters for their spelling and grammar? EDIT: I'm not taking in to account the bullrubbish that goes with it, we'll save that one for another day Edited November 14, 2013 by Jacques Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Does anyone know what happened to the poster also known as Starman, that spent his time taking the p!ss out of other posters for their spelling and grammar? Jacques, i couldn't give a monkeys darling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 We only get our national team together for BSI's benefit anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Jacques, i couldn't give a monkeys darling. I admit to bailing out for the last few pages, but i feel genuinely embarrassed for Starman for the most part of the thread i've seen here. I'm not sure sure i've seen someone stick up for someone, literally post by post, to the extent you have. Forget the fiver someone bet you earlier, i'll quite happily pin £250 to the riders ben fund that says that the next manager will do better than your hero. As for the last page i read, i seriously doubt Phil Morris would come on here to big up his credentials for being a manager - whats the point ? And why should he ? By the same token, there's nothing to be gained in Middlo coming on here to explain me bumping into him in a whorehouse is there ? Exactly... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Orion dear boy. The US have beat us once, and they will do it again, we have nobody creditable enough bar Tai. Bridger aint good enough and needs to take his head out of his own backside, nors Barker, he needs to keep his trap shut and consentrate on riding a speedway bike, i like barker as a rider, and not the other Barker. Cook is still learning, Harris will get no better. Danny King and Eddie Kennet are in the same catagory. and i don't think Scott Nicholls would be interested in riding for Team GB anymore. We are no more a force on the World stage and won't be. We had our best chance in 04 when the riders were at their peak, we don't have the grounding or the set up they have in Poland Denmark and the Aussies for example, We don't have the class, or depth of riders. we do not have the interest in Speedway that the poles and Danes have. A lot of the british kids, think they know it all, and are not prepared to listen. Those that do listen and have a bit of abillity cannot obtain the sponsorship which they need. So, You and your other so called team managers can say what you like, but i will be proved right, we have a very long tail, Neil was on a hiding to nothing, and the new man will be in the same boat. I dare Phil Morris to come on here and disagree with my statement. And i will, remember this conversation.. You may, know a bit about management, but you have no idea how to manage a speedway team. and you certainly would not do any better. Many on here can talk the talk but could never, walk the walk... As i said in my above post, Neil was on a hiding to nothing, and any man taking the job on will be in the same boat. WE DO NOT HAVE THE CLASS OR DEPTH OF RIDER, i hope that helps. Night Night, Team Managers... So once again a load of waffle and no answer of the question. How about you give us the pedigree of fisher, wells and manzares and explain just how they are better than Harris, cook,barker,king, Bridget etc. You are utterly, utterly wrong in your statement that we do not have the same depth of rider. This has been PROVEN to you and any sensible adult would admit that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) So once again a load of waffle and no answer of the question. How about you give us the pedigree of fisher, wells and manzares and explain just how they are better than Harris, cook,barker,king, Bridget etc. You are utterly, utterly wrong in your statement that we do not have the same depth of rider. This has been PROVEN to you and any sensible adult would admit that. 'Bridget'?? Luv it. Brightened my day! ps. Middlo didn't ride/race the bikes against USA - mind you, neither did the 'strength in depth' Team GB riders!!!!! pps. Middlo recommending Rosco; Havvy and/or Screen to throw their hats into the ring - with Morris sticking to U21s for the time being. Edited November 14, 2013 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 'Bridget'?? Luv it. Brightened my day! ps. Middlo didn't ride/race the bikes against USA - mind you, neither did the 'strength in depth' Team GB riders!!!!! pps. Middlo recommending Rosco; Havvy and/or Screen to throw their hats into the ring - with Morris sticking to U21s for the time being. Bridget whoops.. but we'll stick with it! Billy Hamill/Steve Evans didn't race the bikes for the USA either but they were an integral part of their team finishing higher than a far stronger UK team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Shaker Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) You may, know a bit about management, but you have no idea how to manage a speedway team. So I'm perfectly qualified for the job, then. Please don't make assumptions about what I do and do not know about. Please answer the question I asked some posts ago: Do you really think that Middleditch handled and managed the team well during the SWC? Edited November 14, 2013 by Shale Shaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Our side shouldve beaten USA and Latvia, the riders should look at themselves but the management should take full responsibility. Still cant believe Kennett, Barker and Bridger were picked ahead of King! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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