Midland Red Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Scott hasn't ridden him to the fence, Harris had room to move off the line so he could put his foot down to turn the bike, but like I said those two were no going to give an inch, the other way round I think exactly the same would have happened. No one has said that Nicholls rode Harris to the fence!!! There was contact between the two whilst racing, causing Harris to fall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilb Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Interesting point I have not watched the programme again from last night But I thought Tatum said Looking from that camera angle Nicholls is clearly in front and has the racing line, to hard to call Nigel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytsejam Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 They should present Woofy with a Golden Rake. Hilarious but probably against the rules Well he "cheats" in 90% of the GP races (by rolling at the start) so he thought he'd find a different way to cheat at the British Final!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 No one has said that Nicholls rode Harris to the fence!!! There was contact between the two whilst racing, causing Harris to fall so the decision was who caused the contact? Nicholls - in front and on a normal racing line who turns at the exact point he wouldve even if riding alone. Harris - behind and cutting in left on a line that wouldve seen him clip unnaturally across the apex of turn 1 had he have taken it on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I for one am glad Tai won the British Final again, he's the best thing about British speedway at the moment, world champ and current leader, the alternatives don't compare. Got to be better then roller cook, barnpot barker or on the slide Bomber, as for the gardening, I thought it was quite funny and the ref could have put a stop to it if he wanted. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Why is everyone waffling on about Nicholls being in front at the time of the impact? Sure he may have got a wheel ahead, but only by barging through Harris did he get his nose in front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Why is everyone waffling on about Nicholls being in front at the time of the impact? Sure he may have got a wheel ahead, but only by barging through Harris did he get his nose in front. Finally, you accept Nicholls was in front, so the decision was wrong. Glad we cleared that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Hard racing incident, and could have gone either way. Whoever was excluded would have been upset, but personally i thought Bomber was leaning in on Scotty because he knew he was getting beat.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Wasn't it lucky that there just happened to be one where he just happened to look Appears to be nothing in the rules but thought it was against the spirit of the rules Probably a shovel for lifting dog crap from the parade ring, there was some crap lying on the first turn too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 People saying Harris bailed out.... If that's the case he got more of a shove the bend before... Racing incident, tough call that could have went either way so the decision was who caused the contact? Nicholls - in front and on a normal racing line who turns at the exact point he wouldve even if riding alone. Harris - behind and cutting in left on a line that wouldve seen him clip unnaturally across the apex of turn 1 had he have taken it on his own. what is a normal racing line??... Harris had no choice where he was as nicholls was along side him, surely he can't go straight on and not turn or try blast around the outside?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 The ref called the only decision possible in the situation. Couldn't call a rerun with all 4, someone has to go. Nothing really to justify excluding Harris, only option was the charging inside rider, slightly influenced by being a tad out of control on bend 4. Would like to have seen Nicholls in the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P T Preece Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Well done Tai, what a last race four starts, lots of crashes, shame for Ben B, hope he hasnt broken that collar bone. Good luck to Cookie in Cardiff he has come a long way from being a reserve at Buxton now a GP wild card. Kennett,Lanham and Boxall out of there depth, Garrity star of the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P T Preece Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Following on from what I said in the SGP about sportmanship, didnt notice any rider going over to check if any of the fallen riders where ok, wasnt at the meeting just watched it on the Tele, but it looks like this is the state of the sport at the moment when the top men in Britian, dont seem to care a toss about there fellow team mates. Some of this riders will be riding together in the SWC in a few weeks, dosent seem to be much team spirit going around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 People saying Harris bailed out.... If that's the case he got more of a shove the bend before... Racing incident, tough call that could have went either way what is a normal racing line??... Harris had no choice where he was as nicholls was along side him, surely he can't go straight on and not turn or try blast around the outside?? agree that the contact on bend 4 was heavier - possibly as so much speed had been scrubbed off at that point and the fact that Harris probably felt he could still clamp Nicholls and retain the lead? Normal line as in he made a normal turn. Scott didnt run on past the corner or out wider with the aim to ride Harris out. I do think Harris bailed but not with a view to get Scott excluded but because he realised he hadnt 'won' the position on the track he needed and had no other choice. His mistake not Scotts IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 agree that the contact on bend 4 was heavier - possibly as so much speed had been scrubbed off at that point and the fact that Harris probably felt he could still clamp Nicholls and retain the lead? Normal line as in he made a normal turn. Scott didnt run on past the corner or out wider with the aim to ride Harris out. I do think Harris bailed but not with a view to get Scott excluded but because he realised he hadnt 'won' the position on the track he needed and had no other choice. His mistake not Scotts IMO. i think it could have gone either way... But there was definite contact, and enough to knock him off IMO... So I don't think he dived like most are saying... I'm sure nicholls would have been on the deck were the roles reversed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 i think it could have gone either way... But there was definite contact, and enough to knock him off IMO... So I don't think he dived like most are saying... I'm sure nicholls would have been on the deck were the roles reversed.I agree that anybody in that outside position would have ended up on the floor and there was contact. Also although I think Harris was the primary cause I wasnt surprised to see Scott excluded. Of course Scott possibly shouldnt have even been in the heat as he was lucky to get the all 4 earlier so perhaps the old saying of things even themselves out really is true! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Following on from what I said in the SGP about sportmanship, didnt notice any rider going over to check if any of the fallen riders where ok, wasnt at the meeting just watched it on the Tele, but it looks like this is the state of the sport at the moment when the top men in Britian, dont seem to care a toss about there fellow team mates. Some of this riders will be riding together in the SWC in a few weeks, dosent seem to be much team spirit going around. Riders coming over to check is the last thing that is required. That doesn't mean they don't care about the welfare of their rivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 The ref called the only decision possible in the situation. Couldn't call a rerun with all 4, someone has to go. Nothing really to justify excluding Harris, only option was the charging inside rider, slightly influenced by being a tad out of control on bend 4. Would like to have seen Nicholls in the final. Agree with you, from where I was standing it was right decision, I see Nicholls has taken to Twitter to vent his feelings, but like I say I thought it was the easiest decision the ref had to make all night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 i think it could have gone either way... But there was definite contact, and enough to knock him off IMO... So I don't think he dived like most are saying... I'm sure nicholls would have been on the deck were the roles reversed. Of course there was contact, Nicholls had edged ahead and entered the turn tight.. so he couldn't do anything else. Harris had the choice, he caused the contact. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'm wondering if Stevebrum is top of the blocks as for some reason (heaven knows why) he seems to irritate people on here. Puts its only people that don't matter my lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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