skthecat Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 As someone has already ask you where has it ever been said or shown that Sky had any input into those 3 rules ? We all know that double points rule was brought in as a cost saving measure . HELMET COLOURS & SKY I am led to believe that y/b and w/b are hard to distinguish when viewed under lights on tv, same as green was initially trialled instead of white for similar reasons.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 HELMET COLOURS & SKY I am led to believe that y/b and w/b are hard to distinguish when viewed under lights on tv, same as green was initially trialled instead of white for similar reasons.... if you are correct I have to say that sky have ruined speedway be changing these helmet colours 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skthecat Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 if you are correct I have to say that sky have ruined speedway be changing these helmet colours Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit you know? But unfortunately its also the funniest!!!! :-)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 are the colours the same as the sky remote control.. er... skybet springs to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 are the colours the same as the sky remote control.. er... skybet springs to mindCorrect, white was changed top green for Sky Bet but it never took off, which was a shame really. As for the tactical ride, sky can have NO blame for that one. Len Silver and Ronnie Russell invented that one and it was trialed in the 2003 PLKOC before being used in all competitions except weirdly the PLKOC in 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Ultimately Speedway needs to forgot about Sky and it needs to probably forgot about being televised now. The British League system needs to package itself up better and become something interesting to watch. I always read this EL and PL debate but now it's largely irrelevant. The problems for me stemmed from that the difference between EL no.1 to EL no.6/7 was so much wider than PL no.1 to PL no.6/7. Now forgot about the Sky money, the clubs need to get themselves under financial order and I think as a result, you'd see an EL and a PL with a minimal difference in rider quality. Therefore you open up the possibility of inter-divisional cups and promotion/relegation. All clubs need to take a serious look at their outgoings etc and plan appropriately. If this means a license system with an overlooking body, I am all for it. Sometimes I feel Speedway causes it's self more damaging by trying to keep tracks open for the sake of keeping tracks open. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchlad Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Sky may be back big style now that they keep losing other sports!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Sky may be back big style now that they keep losing other sports!!! As along there is only 2 main sports broadcasters, the issue will be the same. SKY know that could get Speedway on the cheap now, maybe even for nothing. If there was a serious third broadcaster, there would be a competitor against SKY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 iii) Yellow Helmet Cover The last one isn't that important - but crucially - I personally have a problem telling White from Yellow under lights. I would prefer the Yellow/Black Cover back.. IF they continue with the Double Points Ride - they could use a Green Helmet Cover for that. The Y/B helmet colour worked fine and should be reintroduced. Speedway lost it's way once they flirted with yellow and then Green helmet covers. There would be no problem differentiating between the B/W helmet and the Y/B as there is a marked difference between the colours yellow and white and anyone who can't see that should probably not concentrate on the helmet colours as blue and red can be frustrating at speed as well. Perhaps we should experiment with displaying some kind of number and maybe even a name on race suits and perhaps some kind of team symbol rather than trying to cram every minor sponsor who has paid more than a fiver onto them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 The Y/B helmet colour worked fine and should be reintroduced. Speedway lost it's way once they flirted with yellow and then Green helmet covers. There would be no problem differentiating between the B/W helmet and the Y/B as there is a marked difference between the colours yellow and white and anyone who can't see that should probably not concentrate on the helmet colours as blue and red can be frustrating at speed as well. Perhaps we should experiment with displaying some kind of number and maybe even a name on race suits and perhaps some kind of team symbol rather than trying to cram every minor sponsor who has paid more than a fiver onto them. Some white helmet covers are more of a silvery colour and under lights they can look pale yellow and cause confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skthecat Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 The Y/B helmet colour worked fine and should be reintroduced. Speedway lost it's way once they flirted with yellow and then Green helmet covers. There would be no problem differentiating between the B/W helmet and the Y/B as there is a marked difference between the colours yellow and white and anyone who can't see that should probably not concentrate on the helmet colours as blue and red can be frustrating at speed as well. Perhaps we should experiment with displaying some kind of number and maybe even a name on race suits and perhaps some kind of team symbol rather than trying to cram every minor sponsor who has paid more than a fiver onto them. In the greater scheme of things, perhaps these aren't the most serious issues to discuss, however, how about having coloured armbands instead of helmet colours?? They used these as well as helmet colours in the 1982 World Final in LA, they worked rather well if I remember correctly? These to be worn on the right arm, RED, BLUE, WHITE, Y & B and for the Tac Sub ride, how about HI-VIZ ORANGE? These have another benefit as well, easier to get on/off and and wont interfere with goggles. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 In the greater scheme of things, perhaps these aren't the most serious issues to discuss, however, how about having coloured armbands instead of helmet colours?? They used these as well as helmet colours in the 1982 World Final in LA, they worked rather well if I remember correctly? These to be worn on the right arm, RED, BLUE, WHITE, Y & B and for the Tac Sub ride, how about HI-VIZ ORANGE? These have another benefit as well, easier to get on/off and and wont interfere with goggles. ... So, on a lot of tracks, when riders are on the back straight, the armband wouldn't be visible? Brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Why not Dress the riders up as teletubbies,(Purple and red - home team , Yellow and green - away team) that way you can differentiate each rider by outfit colour and also the shape of Aeril perched on top his helmet.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skthecat Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Why not Dress the riders up as teletubbies,(Purple and red - home team , Yellow and green - away team) that way you can differentiate each rider by outfit colour and also the shape of Aeril perched on top his helmet.... Perhaps if the helmet colours were all from the same maker, the colours would be more consistent? The fact that more than one colour of red, blue etc etc means some are harder to differentiate than others? (I am trying to be serious here) not just mock others suggestions........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Perhaps if the helmet colours were all from the same maker, the colours would be more consistent? The fact that more than one colour of red, blue etc etc means some are harder to differentiate than others? (I am trying to be serious here) not just mock others suggestions........ Actually I agree on that, seriously. Some helmet covers are so old, they have either been washed out, faded and in the case of the white one, they often appear to be cream more than white, getting it confused with the faded yellow ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 if worky did go lite in 2014 the there would be an awful lot of fans picking and choosing meetings to go to..I.M.O.Yeah all of them Who could resist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skthecat Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Actually I agree on that, seriously. Some helmet covers are so old, they have either been washed out, faded and in the case of the white one, they often appear to be cream more than white, getting it confused with the faded yellow ones. I took part in my first amateur meeting last year at Stoke, I borrowed a set of helmet colours to use, the white one had been washed with the red one and was actually a dirty shade of pink!! A friend who took part, actually had sought out and collected some coloured shop carrier bags and made a set!! Funnily enough they were probably the best coloured colours on show, even if they looked a bit Heath-Robinson!!!! Why don't the tracks have a set or two of standardised helmet colours that are used in official meetings? Also, I might add, new ones aren't cheap! Think the sets I looked at to buy were over £30 per set!! Never to Old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Why don't riders learn to wash them properly!!! Perhaps it's a little job that some lovely supporter would like to do for their club, akin to washing the footy kit haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Why don't riders learn to wash them properly!!! Perhaps it's a little job that some lovely supporter would like to do for their club, akin to washing the footy kit haha yeah but know what it's like mate, might be a pair of the wifes frilly red knickers still in the washing machine drum, they get missed and we end up with Pink and Orange helmet covers..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockney Rebel Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Why not Dress the riders up as teletubbies,(Purple and red - home team , Yellow and green - away team) that way you can differentiate each rider by outfit colour and also the shape of Aeril perched on top his helmet.... Mad as a box of Frogs FP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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