No Sky Or League Sponsorship Money Etc...

[Woz01]

Just read that B sky B revenue is 7bn but BT revenue is 18bn just shows what Sky are competing against.

[AndyJ]

THE real battle between BT and Sky is for broadband customers ... that is where the real revenue is. The TV channels are a means to an end and BT have the financial muscle, as just shown with the Champions League deal, to out bid Sky.

 

I was hoping that this would be one reason why Sky might figure it worthwhile to continue paying the relatively modest sums to retain Speedway coverage.

 

If BT, for example, decided to step in there is a risk that Sky could lose (a) money for Sports, ( b ) money for full package as some fans drop Sky in favour of BT and ( c ) subscribers as those who shift to BT consider it a better deal to take the broadband package in addition. Whilst we represent a fairly insignificant number of subscribers in the grand scheme of things (10.5M TV customers and 5M broadband), we surely represent more potential value than it costs Sky for the existing contract.

Edited November 9, 2013 by Tkdandy

[MrB]

Surely this will mean Sky have to cut subscription fees doesn't it? They can't justify the current costs with just PL footie and F1being their major features, certainly if they don't they will loose subscribers hand over fist.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

Surely this will mean Sky have to cut subscription fees doesn't it? They can't justify the current costs with just PL footie and F1being their major features, certainly if they don't they will loose subscribers hand over fist.

I think Sky would class almost exclusive coverage of domestic and international cricket as a major feature as well.

[A ORLOV]

Just contacted BT inorder to change my line rental agreement which saved a fair sum of money.

 

While on the phone the person I spoke to mentioned was I interested in BTsport. I said not at present but if they did show Speedway I would take it up.

 

He answered that he was surprised how many calls he had received mentioning Speedway and that part of his job is to send feedback from customers to the BTsport section. He has seen speedway in the past and mentioned that he would send another comment across about it, so all those looking to contact BT about reducing their future bills ahead of Jan 2014 when the prices go up do mention Speedway.

Edited November 9, 2013 by A ORLOV

[Crump99]

I think Sky would class almost exclusive coverage of domestic and international cricket as a major feature as well.

 

Wouldn't cross the road to watch cricket and to hear anyone anywhere talking about it is a rarity.

[muirspud]

Surely sky now must get the speedway signed up and soon, they dont want to let bt take everything, as il be thinking twice about getting sports after this season has ended and just getting bt sport or switching to bt for everything.

[Steve0]

Wouldn't cross the road to watch cricket and to hear anyone anywhere talking about it is a rarity.

OMG! I actually agree with Crump99 on something - better go for a lie down

[george.m]

I think Sky would class almost exclusive coverage of domestic and international cricket as a major feature as well.

And golf.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

 

Wouldn't cross the road to watch cricket and to hear anyone anywhere talking about it is a rarity.

Id expect there will be more tuned in at midnight in 2 weeks to witness the start of the Ashes than watched the EL final hence the size of the Cricket deal and the fact there is no doubt of its renewal.

[Woz01]

Cricket is massive for Sky and takes a huge bulk of the schedules, international and domestic.

[Panthers89]

Lets face it.... Speedway in a rough list IMO goes:

 

Football, Golf, Cricket, Tennis, NFL, Greyhounds and then Speedway. Will Sky be fussed about losing the bottom of the pile to potentially improve the others? No.

 

In a way, I think I'll enjoy the sport more without the TV coverage.

[Daniel Smith]

Lets face it.... Speedway in a rough list IMO goes:

 

Football, Golf, Cricket, Tennis, NFL, Greyhounds and then Speedway. Will Sky be fussed about losing the bottom of the pile to potentially improve the others? No.

 

In a way, I think I'll enjoy the sport more without the TV coverage.

Don't forget the Darts but agree, speedway is way don't the order to what you mentioned above and I also agree I don't think right now TV coverage is what's required for speedway. It hasn't helped fix any issues up till now.

[Panthers89]

Don't forget the Darts but agree, speedway is way don't the order to what you mentioned above and I also agree I don't think right now TV coverage is what's required for speedway. It hasn't helped fix any issues up till now.

 

My bad.... and I'm watching that as we speak! Agree with what your saying, I'd much rather catch up on the BSPA site, and find out news on here, and also the Updates site

[Odds On]

so in a nutshell the money Sky gave to speedway in previous seasons has gone to waste?....its little wonder when you have guys on £100-£200 a point and promoters in the winter months being played off of each other by riders demanding higher wages.

Looking at riders nowadays, most of them need at least two or three mechanics, a new and sign written van, more engines than they can count on one hand, engine tuning every week when in reality the real problem is the consistancy of the rider himself!

The main and biggest problem is that riders are taking more out of the game than is coming through the turnstyles, harsh but sadly true, how is this rectified? In reality it is nigh on impossible but somebody somewhere needs to buck the trend and sooner rather than later.

[g13webb]

so in a nutshell the money Sky gave to speedway in previous seasons has gone to waste?....its little wonder when you have guys on £100-£200 a point and promoters in the winter months being played off of each other by riders demanding higher wages.

Looking at riders nowadays, most of them need at least two or three mechanics, a new and sign written van, more engines than they can count on one hand, engine tuning every week when in reality the real problem is the consistancy of the rider himself!

The main and biggest problem is that riders are taking more out of the game than is coming through the turnstyles, harsh but sadly true, how is this rectified? In reality it is nigh on impossible but somebody somewhere needs to buck the trend and sooner rather than later.

 

 

 

Good Post. Not nice to be so blunt but true. We in the UK cannot compete with the foreign countries when it comes to the number of supporters. For that reason we need a reality check. It is so wrong that the riders are being paid the kings ransom just to perform here when we haven't a chance in hell of making it pay. We need a structure in place that govern these things. If the riders are prepared to ride for these affordable prices, then good, if not then goodbye. We have to get back to the situation where the sport is the most important and the riders are just people who partake in it. and not the other way round.

We need speedway in this country, at a price that's affordable, and sustainable. if that can't be done with the top riders then we goes with those we can afford. SIMPLE!!!!

Edited November 10, 2013 by GRW123

[Lord Skid]

You've got some riders already on low money, only problem is they're basically broke, so have to pack up, it's a vicious circle, basic equipment is just not good enough.

The Promoters are their own worst enemy, they could all agree to only pay £50 a point, only trouble is, there will be one or two glory hunters who will pay a bit more, so then the rest have to follow suit, so as to remain competitive.

[Odds On]

You've got some riders already on low money, only problem is they're basically broke, so have to pack up, it's a vicious circle, basic equipment is just not good enough.

The Promoters are their own worst enemy, they could all agree to only pay £50 a point, only trouble is, there will be one or two glory hunters who will pay a bit more, so then the rest have to follow suit, so as to remain competitive.

 

if a rider can't afford to fund a hobby then surely they shouldn't start in the first place?..after all in reality a lot of riders do not make a living out of the sport.

[sussex bulldog]

 

regarding sky in Brittany/Normandy.

 

yes its easy to get ( i have had it in the past) either by just moving your equipment across, but there are also companies in that area specializing in installing sky, i assume legally?

 

We moved our boxes with us and had dish installed by Brit Ex-Pat. Unfortunately Sky rang out of the blue and asked me my address. For my sins I was honest and told them. They kept flashing up a notice on screen telling me they needed more information from me. I have swopped the viewing card and so far so good, I await the next round !

[van wolfswinkel]

BT Sport are spending an estimated £1bn a year, so will need around 5m subscribers to break even.

 

If they are not in that ball park of subscribers and new broadband customers by the end of next year, there will be an awful lot of pressure to pull the plug.

Have just signed up for free BT Sport. They said they will probably have to start charging customers next year, especially with the new football deal. They now have 4 million customers as opposed to Sky's 10.5 million, out of the 26 million homes in the UK.