Guest Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) Mills on a 6 point average would be a no brainer and Schramm on a 7.04 would be a decent signing too. If they're on higher figures then they are of course not as attractive signings. What exactly does this reference mean or infer? I doesn't look complimentary to me - it may in modern day jargon but then I am an oldie! I believe I first heard the term used at a Wombwell Colliers match in 1965. One of the young fans was standing near to my ear trumpet and could be clearly heard. I understand that it means it's an 'obvious decision that requires no thought'. We live and learn. Thanks for the explanation. It now means to me that there is no place - seemingly - for Chris Mills in a Kent Kings side. Edited November 7, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) I think you have grabbed the wrong end of the stick Gustix Mills on a 6pt NL is a no brainer as he should increase it by 50% Unless of course i'm not down with the kids as much as i think i am Edited November 7, 2013 by Triple.H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) I believe I first heard the term used at a Wombwell Colliers match in 1965. One of the young fans was standing near to my ear trumpet and could be clearly heard. I understand that it means it's an 'obvious decision that requires no thought'. I can see no reference to speedway at Wombwell in 1965 here: http://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/wombwell.html or here: http://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/wombwellingsroad.html Both links from the Speedway Researcher. Edited November 7, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 I can see no reference to speedway at Wombwell in 1965 here: http://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/wombwell.html or here: http://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/wombwellingsroad.html Both links from the Speedway Researcher. wombwell staged speedway training schools in the mid 1960's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berniev123 Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 I can see no reference to speedway at Wombwell in 1965 here: http://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/wombwell.html or here: http://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/wombwellingsroad.html Both links from the Speedway Researcher. I,too, thought this but have since found out that training sessions were held at Wombwell in 1964 long after they shut down at the end of the 1948(?) Season. Yep I am getting old! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 I,too, thought this but have since found out that training sessions were held at Wombwell in 1964 long after they shut down at the end of the 1948(?) Season. Yep I am getting old! Ah Wombwell in 1947 and 1948. They always struggled by I still remember riders including Len Tupling, Red Hamley and Stan Beradsall - all a long time ago and a completely different concept generally in regard to team organisation and administration. Thanks for clarifying what went on at Station Road Stadium in the 1960s. wombwell staged speedway training schools in the mid 1960's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichspeedwayfan Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 With regards to the Mason/Schramm situation. I think it would be a benefit to the team to have two experienced riders in the side. Though I may be biased as David Mason was my first ever favourite rider as a 6 year old supporting the old Sittingbourne side and Chris has been a mate of mine since 1998!! My Kent Kings side if it were possible would be: 1. Ben Morley 2. Jack Kingston 3. Benji Compton 4. David Mason 5. Chris Schramm 6. Adam Kirby 7. Connor Coles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Austin Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 1. Ben Morley 2. Shane Hazelden 3. David Mason 4. Marc Owen 5. Aaron Baseby 6. Rik Mullins 7. Jack Kingston Sorry pal, that team wouldn't win a meeting man I also wonder - STILL - what the situation is in regard to Connor Coles and his sudden end-of-season disappearance from the team? Why the block capitals!! You seem to think you have to know everything about the speedway club at Kent??!! You are very wearing with your repeated line of questions. There is a good reason why they are not being answered man. The club don't wish to yet! You need to get out more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 (edited) Well stone the crows, after several weeks of being unable to post after the BSF 'upgrade' (sic), suddenly it's allowing me to again!! Am sure I've been missed!!! Can't say I've missed gustix STILL banging on about the biggest 'non-story' in his distinguished journalistic career..:why Connor Coles wasn't in that final (actually never to be...) away team of the KK season.. Hopefully we'll hear no more of that! Rather like it looked you were going to hear no more from me again!! Edited November 11, 2013 by Parsloes 1928 nearly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 (edited) Well stone the crows, after several weeks of being unable to post after the BSF 'upgrade' (sic), suddenly it's allowing me to again!! Am sure I've been missed!!! Can't say I've missed gustix STILL banging on about the biggest 'non-story' in his distinguished journalistic career..:why Connor Coles wasn't in that final (actually never to be...) away team of the KK season.. Hopefully we'll hear no more of that! Rather like it looked you were going to hear no more from me again!! I'll say no more than welcome back! Sorry pal, that team wouldn't win a meeting man Why the block capitals!! You seem to think you have to know everything about the speedway club at Kent??!! You are very wearing with your repeated line of questions. There is a good reason why they are not being answered man. The club don't wish to yet! You need to get out more . I also wonder - STILL - what the situation is in regard to Connor Coles and his sudden end-of-season disappearance from the team? In another career on a non-speedway subject when dealing with a council I filed 37 times the same question and when I retired from a working life in 1997 I was then STILL waiting for an answer. The question was never answered so far as I know. The use of capitals? That's what we used to call "designed for emphasis". It obviously worked in a minor way on here - you noticed it! Edited November 11, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Only 37 times..? As a former Council employee myself I can tell you we never answer until a question's asked 40 times! A schoolboy error on your part there!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 You seem to think you have to know everything about the speedway club at Kent??!! You are very wearing with your repeated line of questions. There is a good reason why they are not being answered man. The club don't wish to yet! You need to get out more In the days of 'real' promoters like Johnnie Hoskins, Freddie Mockford, E O Spence and Ronnie Greene queries from fans were always answered. They respected their supporters and did not adopt the attitude that you infer (I am certain it is not the case but just your own supposition) that Kent Kings have towards those who follow the activities of the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Have you actually asked anyone from the club Gustix? Maybe try emailing them and they can be of assistance. I think by now it's pretty obvious nobody on this forum knows the answer to your query. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 With Nikko and Paul withdrawing from the KK enterprise it makes one wonder how things will go forward, With annual meetings coming around and no certainty on TV rights, it feels like the early 60's are to be re-visited. I do not like uncertainty, and by golly a big hole has been driven into the KK club, without our awaiting external pressures. In respect of the basics, the riders, some team lists appear to be very biased towards Lakeside assets, and did not Len have a loose tie-up there at one time? Just a thought. Yes Roger did have to have an experienced promoter alongside him for his first year of tenure, but not a whole rut of them. In some respect putting the shutters up till next March does not help anyone other than rumour mongers, maybe even lead to breeding them! At least be open and honest, it is not only the fans who like to know what is likely to happen but riders must also wonder. I suppose the club will be inundated with people volunteering to replace Nikko and Paul, but a lot of experience has been lost and really the club supporters should consider that fact. Glad I have got that off my chest, hopefully Nikko and Paul will have a re-think and I believe collectively that fans could influence their decision taken I believe in haste. This is a forum to be used for such a task as would Facebook. Get typing all and one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 With Nikko and Paul withdrawing from the KK enterprise it makes one wonder how things will go forward, With annual meetings coming around and no certainty on TV rights, it feels like the early 60's are to be re-visited. I do not like uncertainty, and by golly a big hole has been driven into the KK club, without our awaiting external pressures. In respect of the basics, the riders, some team lists appear to be very biased towards Lakeside assets, and did not Len have a loose tie-up there at one time? Just a thought. Yes Roger did have to have an experienced promoter alongside him for his first year of tenure, but not a whole rut of them. In some respect putting the shutters up till next March does not help anyone other than rumour mongers, maybe even lead to breeding them! At least be open and honest, it is not only the fans who like to know what is likely to happen but riders must also wonder. I suppose the club will be inundated with people volunteering to replace Nikko and Paul, but a lot of experience has been lost and really the club supporters should consider that fact. Glad I have got that off my chest, hopefully Nikko and Paul will have a re-think and I believe collectively that fans could influence their decision taken I believe in haste. This is a forum to be used for such a task as would Facebook. Get typing all and one! You are correct,.The fact that Neil and Paul have walked must tell you that all is not well at KK.As far as I am concerned,I shall not attend until things change and it becomes a KENT team and not a RAIDERS benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 I really don't understand this constant reiteration by some, of a 'concern' about the links with Rye House. People talk of them as if such a thing's unusual. Mildenhall have the exact same relationship (no, not the same - actually much closer) with their PL neighbours in Suffolk, the Ipswich Witches. Does it cause anyone at West Row any angst..? Not so far as I've ever been able to pick up. When Crayford opened first it was the 'nursery' club of Wolverhampton; when it reopened it had a pretty close relationship with Hackney - indeed Len Silver was promoter at Hackney and co-promoter at first at Crayford too in '75. He had been promoter at Rayleigh and of course then at Rye House at this same sort of time. Many of the Kestrels had been Rockets in the year or two before and/or were Hackney assets. So it's not unusual; and more importantly it's not damaging. For goodness sake, the link gave us Stevie and Ben, our top two; it also of course, gave us David and Connor. Was that in any way a bad thing..? Would getting - for example - Simon Lambert or even possibly Luke Bowen next season (just examples not speculation!) be a bad thing..? I'd be hard pushed to say yes so why on earth would anyone else. And to even suggest not coming to Central Park anymore because some riders are RH assets is utterly bewildering... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adz_mft Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I'd say our link to Ipswich is a positive one.They want to find the best youngsters around to ride for us and then in the future go on to ride for them.In situations like this the clubs should work together.Like Kent and Rye should.Makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistlegang Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I agree. For some reason it gave me the hump to start with, but, if it helps to keep competitive Speedway at CP and we get to see riders like Steve Boxall, then, that's good enough for me. Our crowd is bigger than theirs anyway!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Excellent post from Parsloes,agree with every thing he has said,,some people have been getting paranoid about everyone and every thing connected to Rye House probably one of the most stable clubs in the country..Without whos connection there probably would not have been a Kent Kings this season... I am sure Roger will have been reasonably happy with the way things have gone in the first season.. Now lets start thinking about next year in a positive frame of mind.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikko Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 All, nice comments from some, but as Waco says, time to move on. The past is the past, and will stay that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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