phillipsr Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 I like Morley as a rider but if he went soley PL think it would be the end of him. Hes not ready yet. He needs to really dominate in the NL and he hasnt done that yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Whistle Gang Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 On the basis that everyone seems to think Steve 'Maximus' Boxall will be on the move, here's the line-up I would like to see at Kings next season (in no particular order): Simon Lambert Jack Kingston David Mason (Capt) Benji Compton Ben Morley Adam Kirby Chris Schramm I make that a combined total of about 37.83. Incidentally, wherever Benji Compton rides (in the NL) in 2014, the rest of 'em will be eating his dust. . Anyone else wanna stick their neck out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 If the islanders don't sort their air fence out there could be a whole team looking for new rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Time to chuck my thoughts in. Gone for a solid top 5 and two riders who will be strong reserves. 1. Ben Morley © It is a make or break year for Ben. He isn't ready for the Premier League yet. His NL average dropped below 6 at a stage in 2013 which shows this. The fact he finished above 7 shows a strong end to the season though and proves he is capable of performing to a high standard. He has all the attributes to be a very good rider and has great support off track. He's off to Australia this winter which has helped lots of young Brits really kick on. Give him the number one racejacket and let him make it his own. 2. Marc Owen The lad was destined for great things. Unfortunately he had some horrible injuries however he can come back and become a very good rider. He would be a slow burner across the season, perhaps even drop to reserve for a spell but by the end of 2014 he'll be heading back in the right direction. 3. Chris Mills Will come into the NL on a 6 point average, capable of at least 7. Comes from Chelmsford so not a horrendously long journey for him to home meetings, especially after a year of travelling all the way to Workington for home meetings. An experienced head also, a key signing. 4. Benji Compton Shown glimpses of what he's capable of in 2013. Had some poor performances too, if he is on better machinery then he can become a heat leader certainly. 5. Chris Schramm On a 7 point average Schramm is a must. A real battler, will maintain his average or push it up by 0.5 or so. Another experienced head in the pits. With Morley, Compton and Mills could become part of a powerhouse top 4. 6. Connor Coles Question marks over machinery, none over talent. On a decent bike and at reserve Coles will really kick on. Spent most of his first full season partnering Steve Boxall and racing opposition heat leaders in most races. Be a shame if he's lost to the sport, can become a real Kings favourite. 7. Jack Kingston Never say die rider, love watching him ride and progress as a rider. Partnered with Coles the Kings will have a reserve partnership to strike fear into other NL sides. There we go, a solid side 1-7, led by fans favourite Ben Morley, full of potential and experience. Boxall will go into the PL, he can't double down and rightly so. Simon Lambert on an average similar to Boxall's would be a mistake as he is half the rider that Boxall is. David Mason was a victim to the numbers in my line up, however he could be included in place of Mills or Schramm although he hasn't got the same potential to improve his average IMO. Adam Kirby again a victim of circumstance, he's a real battler and doesn't know when he's beaten. It didn't work throwing two rookies in this season however and it'd be a mistake to go with the same partnership again I feel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 To be fair there was a lot of pressure on the reserves and Kirby did start well which raised expectations and pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) If the islanders don't sort their air fence out there could be a whole team looking for new rides. What link justifies this to Kent Kings? Or are you indicating a possible list of potential riders for Kings if IoW fail to appear for the 2014 season? Edited November 6, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Just adding potentially more riders into the mix. No need to get the disapproving smileys out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Navyboy Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 MY OWN OPINION 1. Ben Morley 2. David Mason C 3. Benji Compton 4. Simon Lambert 5. Adam Kirby 6. Jack Kingston 7. Danno Verge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I think Ben Hopwood could come into the mix went well round C.P this season Lives in the midlands but does not seem to mind travelling..Mind you i hope I.O.W will continue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Cannot see any way that Mills and Schramm have 6 and 7 point averages respectively. The current rules state that if a rider has a PL CMA and a NL (CL) CMA then the highest of the two shall be used. Not sure what their averages were when they last rode in the third division but would be very surprised if they were that low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Cannot see any way that Mills and Schramm have 6 and 7 point averages respectively. The current rules state that if a rider has a PL CMA and a NL (CL) CMA then the highest of the two shall be used. Not sure what their averages were when they last rode in the third division but would be very surprised if they were that low. Schramm hasn't ridden NL since averages were brought in instead of gradings so does that still apply? And Mills' average when he signed for Bournemouth in 2010 was 9.98. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Schramm hasn't ridden NL since averages were brought in instead of gradings so does that still apply? And Mills' average when he signed for Bournemouth in 2010 was 9.98. Even though averages weren't published/used for team building he will still have one. Although they can't double up/down unless the ruling is changed as a rider must be under 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Whistle Gang Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 PL rider stepping down to NL, divide PL average by 0.6. Isn't an allowance made for riders who've been out of action for a while, e.g. a reduction to their average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 It's still just double the PL average, the conversion system is different to that between EL and PL unless it has changed for this winter. Mills may have an average, I'm not 100%, but Schramm will be double his PL figure in the interests of consistency as its been longer since he last rode NL that Boxall did before this season and he came in on double his last PL average. When did Mills last actually achieve a NL average? I have a feeling it will have been back in 2005 at Oxford and the meetings he did at Bournemouth were on double his PL average at the time. Mills on a 6 point average would be a no brainer and Schramm on a 7.04 would be a decent signing too. If they're on higher figures then they are of course not as attractive signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 It's still just double the PL average, the conversion system is different to that between EL and PL unless it has changed for this winter. Mills may have an average, I'm not 100%, but Schramm will be double his PL figure in the interests of consistency as its been longer since he last rode NL that Boxall did before this season and he came in on double his last PL average. When did Mills last actually achieve a NL average? I have a feeling it will have been back in 2005 at Oxford and the meetings he did at Bournemouth were on double his PL average at the time. Mills on a 6 point average would be a no brainer and Schramm on a 7.04 would be a decent signing too. If they're on higher figures then they are of course not as attractive signings. What exactly does this reference mean or infer? I doesn't look complimentary to me - it may in modern day jargon but then I am an oldie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 MY OWN OPINION 1. Ben Morley 2. David Mason C 3. Benji Compton 4. Simon Lambert 5. Adam Kirby 6. Jack Kingston 7. Danno Verge Danno Verge ? Not on what he showed last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistlegang Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Cannot see any way that Mills and Schramm have 6 and 7 point averages respectively. The current rules state that if a rider has a PL CMA and a NL (CL) CMA then the highest of the two shall be used. Not sure what their averages were when they last rode in the third division but would be very surprised if they were that low. From memory, Schramm finished 1 out of approx a dozen rides around CP this season. I don't think I could cope with that if he was one of ours! One or two wise heads (Mason as captain) and the rest can be Jack Kingston clones - i'd be chuffed with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistlegang Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 What happens about the bronze helmet if Boxall only rides PL next season?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 What happens about the bronze helmet if Boxall only rides PL next season?! In these cases I think it will be declared vacant, then contested by the highest scorers from each team at the first official meeting of the 2014 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Eye Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 What exactly does this reference mean or infer? I doesn't look complimentary to me - it may in modern day jargon but then I am an oldie! I believe I first heard the term used at a Wombwell Colliers match in 1965. One of the young fans was standing near to my ear trumpet and could be clearly heard. I understand that it means it's an 'obvious decision that requires no thought'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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