Trees Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Get the Aussie riders to do some race commentary, love it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers in Gravy Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 I quite like the play-offs, except for the fact that there's no real advantage in finishing top (I feel the same about football's promotion/relegation play-offs). Rugby League has a convoluted play-off system, but it does at least mean that the higher a team finishes, the better their "draw" in the play-offs. I don't understand why a team that finishes third or fourth should start on a level playing field with a team that finishes first or second. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephantman Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Â Â Awful post. Â Maybe you would feel more at home in North Korea or some such state. Â Overall, I don't mind Pearson, there are some things that irritate me (as all commentators do, that's natural) and he has made some condescending statements regarding fans in the past, but on the whole he is a speedway guy and does a reasonable job in his role (sometimes an excellent job). Â Viewers are fully within their rights to criticise if they wish to do so, some have valid points, others as you suggest are just spouting nonsense. Â For every poster that criticises Pearson, Tatum et al, there are others who praise them. Everyone is entitled to their say and as Humphrey says, it won't have any impact whatsoever on whether Sky continue, don't continue or who they employ. Â Viewers are fully within their rights to criticise; but its not what you say its how you say it that causes the issue. Many of the post I read are about Nigel Pearson are quite vitriolic and personal in their attack; the post that started this thread is an example; it uses emotive language to attack the individual rather than attacking the individuals point of view. Â Rather like some describing a post as "awful" without justifying why it is awful and then suggesting the poster may be more at home in North Korea without justifying the statement either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) As far as his attitude towards social media, he has never been one to suffer fools and the dogs' abuse he gets on Twitter in particular is totally uncalled for - more power to him for fighting back. Â Figures in the public eye will get criticised - sometimes unfairly and vitriolically. It may not be fair and it may not be right, but that's price you pay if you become a public figure and you must just try to rise above it. Â However, Pearson seemed to have a poor attitude towards Internet fans long before social media was heard of, and before he received any criticism as far as I'm aware. He seemed to resent fans sharing information and undermining the impact of his press releases. Edited October 18, 2013 by Humphrey Appleby 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephantman Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Â Â Figures in the public eye will get criticised - sometimes unfairly and vitriolically. It may not be fair and it may not be right, but that's price you pay if you become a public figure and you must just try to rise above it. Â Â Why is that the price you pay? Is it because we have become such an objectionable nation in terms of our attitude to people in the public eye? Why should anyone in the public eye have to put up with vitriolic and unnecessary comments? Criticism is fine; plain nastiness is not! Â The reality is the great unwashed keyboard warrior will often post things that they would never dream of saying to the person face to face; if you wouldn't say it you shouldn't post it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 the play-offs were great last year when Swindon won, but rubbish all the other years!. Still don't see the logic of calling a team that finishes 4th. champions, but thems the rules. Brum should get a trophy as league winners as well, same as Rugby league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 The reality is the great unwashed keyboard warrior will often post things that they would never dream of saying to the person face to face; if you wouldn't say it you shouldn't post it. Â I don't disagree, but people will do it regardless of what you and I think. You won't win by responding to vitriol, so you should just ignore it, and if you can't then you're probably in the wrong job. Â I don't think heckling is anything new - it's just more immediate and visible these days because of social media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 the play-offs were great last year when Swindon won, but rubbish all the other years!. Still don't see the logic of calling a team that finishes 4th. champions, but thems the rules. Brum should get a trophy as league winners as well, same as Rugby league. Â Oh I don't know. 2010 was pretty good as well. The fighting Bees beating league leaders Poole home and away, Chris Harris being run over by his team mate then miraculously getting up and winning the re-run of the race. I wouldn't say any of that 2nd leg was 'rubbish'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 The reality is the great unwashed keyboard warrior will often post things that they would never dream of saying to the person face to face; if you wouldn't say it you shouldn't post it. I would never dream of saying to Nige's face that I think he does an excellent job and I really enjoy him and Kel's commentary so maybe I should stop saying that here. And I wash every day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 The Play offs are here to stay like them or not. Personally dont like them as it doesnt reward a seasons hard work. Â It massively favours the team in fourth IF that team has made drastic changes and stormed from miles back into the play offs. That team will have usually have a much stronger 1-7 then the team who finished top that is obvious. Â There is no doubt that whoever finished 4th this year Poole or Peterborough would have won the league. If Lakeside would hav held on they wouldnt have won the league. Â This isnt a dig at Poole as it happened to them back when Coventry beat them by a late run into 4th. Â Last year nobody came from miles back so Swindon rightfully won the league. Â The play offs do not favour the best team. Birmingham this season should be champions same as Poole should have been last year and 2010. All it shows is that you should build an average side then change it in June to a side that will get into the top 4. Consistency is not rewarded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 The irony of it all !! We have a guy who posts in defence of someone who is being "slagged off ", and he does that by slagging someone else off. Â The irony for you of course, is one deserved getting 'slagged off', but the other in this question doesn't. Still following me around I see, Sad Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 The irony for you of course, is one deserved getting 'slagged off', but the other in this question doesn't. Still following me around I see, Sad Sad. Â That's double standards if I've ever seen it, and no I don't follow you around. You post, others comment .That is what forums are for is it not? If you don't want to read my comments put me on ignore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 The irony for you of course, is one deserved getting 'slagged off', but the other in this question doesn't. Still following me around I see, Sad Sad. Â Count yourself lucky it's not Stevebrum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I am not a Pearson fan by any stretch of the imagination, I personally think he can be a little too biased sometimes and it does detract from my personal viewing experience, that goes for Darts coverage and talksport too. Conversely a lot of people do like him though. Too many people moan about him because that is the general consensus not because they actually have an opinion on the subject it seems. As much as I'm not a fan, the man has a real passion for the sport and that cannot be knocked. Â As for the play-offs, again I'm not a great fan however they draw crowds and make good viewing. Comparisons to football are silly, Speedway is not football it's as simple as that. My team won a league title through the play-offs and I celebrated it, the rules are there set out at the start of the season the same for each club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 That's double standards if I've ever seen it, and no I don't follow you around. You post, others comment .That is what forums are for is it not? If you don't want to read my comments put me on ignore. Â Â Of course it is David, why not try it sometime. I just notice you either comment in a derisory tone, or many times 'like' anybody else's post who might be being derisory to me. Funny that, but you don't follow me, aye right. Oh look, there's Blazeaway doing an impression of you now. Talk about being predictable. Â BTW why would I want to put you on 'ignore'. One day you are going to make a major statement that means something, why would I risk missing such a momentous occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Of course it is David, why not try it sometime. I just notice you either comment in a derisory tone, or many times 'like' anybody else's post who might be being derisory to me. Funny that, but you don't follow me, aye right. Oh look, there's Blazeaway doing an impression of you now. Talk about being predictable. Â BTW why would I want to put you on 'ignore'. One day you are going to make a major statement that means something, why would I risk missing such a momentous occasion. Â I "like " posts that happen to believe are appropriate to the topic. Â You let yourself down by getting aggressive with anyone who happens disagree with your posts, and then go on to take digs at anyone that might support that view. At the same time you regularly use the "like" button yourself. It seems to me you are incapable of taking any type of criticism, and if anyone dares to question your views you just have to use the bully type approach in an attempt to silence them. Well it will not work on me. I will continue to use the like button and comment on quotes, yours included, when appropriate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 If Cardiff happened every week then crowds would very quickly drop to a fraction of their current levels. Â I think part of speedways problem is theres too much of it. Lakeside ran only 15 home meetings this year,if they ran less it wouldn't be worth bothering,we need a regular fixture list,weekly speedway.This 'more is less' theory was tried this year and didn't work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I "like " posts that happen to believe are appropriate to the topic. Â You let yourself down by getting aggressive with anyone who happens disagree with your posts, and then go on to take digs at anyone that might support that view. At the same time you regularly use the "like" button yourself. It seems to me you are incapable of taking any type of criticism, and if anyone dares to question your views you just have to use the bully type approach in an attempt to silence them. Well it will not work on me. I will continue to use the like button and comment on quotes, yours included, when appropriate. Â Ha Ha, put that in the jokes section please. I present my views, and then often suffer an attempt to bullying from someone who is generally known for it. You were doing so well upto that point as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Nigel Pearson is the best speedway commentator on TV. He adds vitality and interest even to the most processional of races. Kelvin is good as the instant comment man, backing him up although I was impressed with Steve Johnston when he stood in for him some years ago. If Sky do not transmit speedway next season, I fully expect Nigel to continue with the GP's on Eurosport and maybe take over the commentary of the European championship from the two clowns who do it at the moment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Of course it is David, why not try it sometime. I just notice you either comment in a derisory tone, or many times 'like' anybody else's post who might be being derisory to me. Funny that, but you don't follow me, aye right. Oh look, there's Blazeaway doing an impression of you now. Talk about being predictable. Â BTW why would I want to put you on 'ignore'. One day you are going to make a major statement that means something, why would I risk missing such a momentous occasion. Â Tsunami did me - for a lot less. :sad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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