Dave Jones Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 He is. And a damn good sponsor too!! Not you is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Not you is it? No way - out of my league, my pension wouldn't allow it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 No way - out of my league, my pension wouldn't allow it!!!! Ah right. Mind you they would have to pay me £910 to stand next to Middlo for 3-4 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 25 million for the Blues, 200 mill for the Villa. Take your pick, bro!! The Blues is not that appealing, the last guy got 6 years inside for taking it on. Villa must have gone down in value a lot since Culverhouse left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remembertheracers Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 I think this is a disgraceful move! What an indictment of British EL speedway in the Midlands - sacking a young British rider and replacing him with some mercenary foreigner!!!! Absolutely disgusting behaviour!! Kennett hasn't been a young prospect for many years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven101 Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Has king saved himself ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Has king saved himself ? Most definitely, I would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GiveusaB Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 I'd say he's put his mate Ben Barker under serious threat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Clearly someone who gets a considerably larger wage/bank balance than most then!. Possibly, but it's a gamble worth taking surely? The club needs funds and going to it's supporters is one way to get something and offer something in return. This could bring in £50K (less anything the Inland Revenue want of course). Is it worth it? Maybe, maybe not, but let's hope there are 100 supporters willing to help the club. Again, Phillips could have dumped the club, but has chosen not to and appears determined to make it work somehow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pedaler Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 £500 is a lot of money to someone on a state pension. It's the same as 2 years winter heating allowance. Is Philips expecting his fans to freeze over the winter for two years to pay for this VIP malarkey? And it's a lot to ask for, if Philips is hoping that the elderly fans that Birmingham have, dig into their life savings for this expensive luxury. What if Birmingham Speedway folds? Is there a refund clause? And if Philips packs in? What then? Will a new promoter be obliged to honour the terms and conditions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten2502 Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 What if Birmingham Speedway folds? Is there a refund clause? And if Philips packs in? What then? Will a new promoter be obliged to honour the terms and conditions? With respect, surely there is no point in asking that sort of question on a forum where no-one has the answer. The only ones who can answer are the people making the appeal - have you tried that avenue? It's quite obviously caused a stir, but like the idea or not, at least they are TRYING to do something about the lack of finances. I'm not a huge AP fan but I applaud the efforts being made. It's so very easy to criticize without offering an alternative solution. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 What if Birmingham Speedway folds? Is there a refund clause? And if Philips packs in? What then? Will a new promoter be obliged to honour the terms and conditions? With respect, surely there is no point in asking that sort of question on a forum where no-one has the answer. The only ones who can answer are the people making the appeal - have you tried that avenue? It's quite obviously caused a stir, but like the idea or not, at least they are TRYING to do something about the lack of finances. I'm not a huge AP fan but I applaud the efforts being made. It's so very easy to criticize without offering an alternative solution. Well said. Without AP there would be no speedway in Birmingham. Speedway fans seem to think promoters are dispensable and as one fails there's another one waiting in the wings. We are pretty much on our third one now since 2007 so you'd think everyone would get behind him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 dont think its only birmingham in this position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 They shouldn't have voted for the EL to be a glorified PL/NL with a top rider thrown in, and expect the fans to pay top dollar for the privilege, fans are loyal, not stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 They shouldn't have voted for the EL to be a glorified PL/NL with a top rider thrown in, and expect the fans to pay top dollar for the privilege, fans are loyal, not stupid. it was clear this move would turn out the way it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pedaler Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 It's all well and good to say that someone is "trying to do something", but you'd expect someone at the top to try to do something that has a reasonable chance of success. If AP wanted to fly he'd be "trying to do something" by flapping his arms, but sadly that won't get him anywhere either. I don't think that the Brummies have the time, or resources to waste on schemes that are ill-conceived and doomed to failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 birmingham cant see out the season with current line up, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Danny King signs for Newcastle Diamonds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Reading this thread, sure brings home the reality of the sport. Over the years the sport governor's have forgotten the basis rudiments required and concentrated on flash ideas and bright lights. Its all well talking about top riders, Foreign riders, fast bikes, rule cheating, but surely survival is the most important aspect of them all. The bosses of BSPA don't seem to grasp that the basis of any sport, has to relate with Costs and VFM. Without them there is no chance of survival. Fans, will not continue to support anything that is not value for money. Unfortunately, money doesn't grow on trees, and most people have to work hard for it. To ask them to fitter it away for little reward is a recipe for disaster. Being a Promoter of this sport must be sole destroying. Banging your head against the wall every day. Hoping your next meeting will be a good one when all the bills can get paid. Hoping to get good reviews to help generate a better crowd next time. Have we enough money to pay for fresh shale, and the site repairs. Don't forget the PA doesn't work properly, Got to get those sponsors sorted for the programme next week, Please don't rain. God it must be murder for those people who are trying to Promote the sport, and do it in a way to make a living. I feel for you all. Taking all these aspects into consideration, we have to cut our materials to suit our clothe. We cannot compete with the big boys abroad. we need to take stock of what we can afford. Only then will there be a better chance of survival....... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Reading this thread, sure brings home the reality of the sport. Over the years the sport governor's have forgotten the basis rudiments required and concentrated on flash ideas and bright lights. Its all well talking about top riders, Foreign riders, fast bikes, rule cheating, but surely survival is the most important aspect of them all. The bosses of BSPA don't seem to grasp that the basis of any sport, has to relate with Costs and VFM. Without them there is no chance of survival. Fans, will not continue to support anything that is not value for money. Unfortunately, money doesn't grow on trees, and most people have to work hard for it. To ask them to fitter it away for little reward is a recipe for disaster. Being a Promoter of this sport must be sole destroying. Banging your head against the wall every day. Hoping your next meeting will be a good one when all the bills can get paid. Hoping to get good reviews to help generate a better crowd next time. Have we enough money to pay for fresh shale, and the site repairs. Don't forget the PA doesn't work properly, Got to get those sponsors sorted for the programme next week, Please don't rain. God it must be murder for those people who are trying to Promote the sport, and do it in a way to make a living. I feel for you all. Taking all these aspects into consideration, we have to cut our materials to suit our clothe. We cannot compete with the big boys abroad. we need to take stock of what we can afford. Only then will there be a better chance of survival....... I can't disagree with any of your comments GRW - I have said many times that I would not like to be a promoter in these very difficult economic times. I have a lot of respect for them in trying to keep this great sport of ours alive. There is just one slight flaw in point you make - the BSPA are these same promoters you and I are referring to and I just don't get it that they can't work together to find the solutions to the problems the sport evidently has. Good post though...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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