david2905 Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 A lot of people on here need to apologise to Andy Povey too after the 14 pages of crap on here from people not knowing what they were talking about. Fair enough, I'll hold my hands up to that one, I'm man enough to admit I was wrong. In my defence however, when there's two versions of events, your always going to back the one in favour of your club without overwhelming evidence either way, so is it my fault for trying to defend my club, or the person who mislead me ?. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelb Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 or you can just say sorry, it's not that difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 A lot of people on here need to apologise to Andy Povey too after the 14 pages of crap on here from people not knowing what they were talking about. Actually there are perhaps 22 pages of "Crap" but hardly a mention of Mr Povey or the Web site on this thread. I respectfully suggest you reply to the original thread to air your grievances. a rant by the Andy Povey protection league is not required. Fair enough, I'll hold my hands up to that one, I'm man enough to admit I was wrong. In my defence however, when there's two versions of events, your always going to back the one in favour of your club without overwhelming evidence either way, so is it my fault for trying to defend my club, or the person who mislead me ?. On this forum we all gain most of our info from unaccredited sources, Those who cry apologise should put their own house in order first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david2905 Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 or you can just say sorry, it's not that difficult I could have chose to stick two fingers up to the suggestion than say anything at all y'know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGP Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Excellent statement from Mr Phillips on the BSPA website, apologising profusely to AP Media for all the issues over the website. Admitted the club had got it wrong and welcoming AP back with open arms!! WOULDN'T read to much into Birmingham apologising to Andy Povey. My understanding is that they were forced to use his services and if they hadn't apologised then they wouldn't be having a new website at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephantman Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 WOULDN'T read to much into Birmingham apologising to Andy Povey. My understanding is that they were forced to use his services and if they hadn't apologised then they wouldn't be having a new website at all. So they don't have the humility to acknowledge and learn from their mistakes; those who don't learn repeat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 So they don't have the humility to acknowledge and learn from their mistakes; those who don't learn repeat!Definition of insanity, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piccolo Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 WOULDN'T read to much into Birmingham apologising to Andy Povey. My understanding is that they were forced to use his services and if they hadn't apologised then they wouldn't be having a new website at all. SGP, don't take the Mick. This was on the Brummies forum last night from Dave Rowe who is the Brum's prog ed and announcer: No - all sites must be hosted on the BSPA's dedicated server, but AP Media is not the server administrator, and in the 2013 season five of the ten EL clubs had AP Media websites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGP Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) THINK you'll find that not ALL clubs are forced to use AP Media Services it's just Birmingham. I believe Rowe is very pally with Andy Povey as are the Drury's and Pearson. Coincidence? Edited November 27, 2013 by SGP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The H Man Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 THINK you'll find that not ALL clubs are forced to use AP Media Services it's just Birmingham. I believe Rowe is very pally with Andy Povey as are the Drury's and Pearson. Coincidence? SGP isn't speedway all about the old pals game? And when some people don't get what they want they behave like a spoilt BRAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_rowe Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Sorry but that (post 329) is factually incorrect. Birmingham are not, and never have been, forced to use AP Media. Nobody is forced to use anyone, although naturally questions are asked if one particular website puts the entire BSPA network, whose server administrator is not AP Media, at risk - especially if other clubs raise concerns over the issue. I have a professional working relationship with Andy Povey - can't speak for the others you've quoted but the best way to work in this game is professionalism first, pals second. Even better if you can achieve both together! Edited November 27, 2013 by david_rowe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Sorry but that (post 329) is factually incorrect. Birmingham are not, and never have been, forced to use AP Media. Nobody is forced to use anyone, although naturally questions are asked if one particular website puts the entire BSPA network, whose server administrator is not AP Media, at risk - especially if other clubs raise concerns over the issue. I have a professional working relationship with Andy Povey - can't speak for the others you've quoted but the best way to work in this game is professionalism first, pals second. Even better if you can achieve both together! Nice to see a rare comment from one of the BSPA press officers Edited November 27, 2013 by bigcatdiary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 or you can just say sorry, it's not that difficult The voice of experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Sorry but that (post 329) is factually incorrect. Birmingham are not, and never have been, forced to use AP Media. Nobody is forced to use anyone, although naturally questions are asked if one particular website puts the entire BSPA network, whose server administrator is not AP Media, at risk - especially if other clubs raise concerns over the issue. I have a professional working relationship with Andy Povey - can't speak for the others you've quoted but the best way to work in this game is professionalism first, pals second. Even better if you can achieve both together! Doesn't the confusion over website hosting and design go back a few years to when all the (EL?) websites had the '.co' domain address introduced, by GoSpeed I thought?! At the same time there was a suggestion/proposal to also 'standardise' each website homepage (in order that the league sponsor - Sky - could have the same exposure on every homepage), and AP Media were proposed as the preferred agency to do that design work. Although there was a strong keenness for this to be introduced by the BSPA, it stopped short of being an instruction. As has been mentioned some 5 or 6 EL clubs have used AP in their design! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGP Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Sorry but that (post 329) is factually incorrect. Birmingham are not, and never have been, forced to use AP Media. Nobody is forced to use anyone, although naturally questions are asked if one particular website puts the entire BSPA network, whose server administrator is not AP Media, at risk - especially if other clubs raise concerns over the issue. I have a professional working relationship with Andy Povey - can't speak for the others you've quoted but the best way to work in this game is professionalism first, pals second. Even better if you can achieve both together! SADLY, the actual running order in Speedway is very much FRIENDS first rather than professionalism. As for the facts about the Brum website, we both have differing thoughts on it so I'll shelve that topic going forward. PS: thanks for viewing my profile... Strangely we know each other off here, so it made me smile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Kev Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Been reported elsewhere that the Brummies website will back up and running on Saturday and the first signing will be announced at 9pm that evening on the website. Lets hope it doesnt crash!! Edited November 28, 2013 by Brummie Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Been reported elsewhere that the Brummies website will back up and running on Saturday and the first signing will be announced at 9pm that evening on the website. Lets hope it doesnt crash!! Ben Barker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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