cyclone Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Div 1 and 2 In Denmark are no more than glorified Amateur leagues-certainly not Professional leagues. Really ? Tell that to Kenneth Hansen, Jesper B Monberg, Rasmus Jensen, Peter kildemand, Nikolaj Busk Jacobsen, Ander Thomsen,and Mikkel Michelsen who all rode in Division 1 matches in 2013. Bloody good amateurs eh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 I miss-read his post, and corrected it when i read it again... Happy. He should still only come in on no more than a 5, as he's never ridden here and un-proven.in that case neither was Jensen, bech, Rosen etc etc This bending of the rules seems ingrained in you starry.... Win fairly or not at all, ALL clubs and riders MUST be treat the same.... Regardless of what your choice of club is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondsRock Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Sure about that http://speedwayresults.com/rider.php?name=Brady&surname=Kurtz&season=2013 Here you are Good scoring record, reassess him to a 7.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Rules are if you ride in a pro-league you come in on a 7. Did Kurtz ride in the Danish League? Yes or no? As for unproven, in his Danish League meetings he beat Kenneth Bjerre and Kenneth Hansen. So maybe a 6 point EL average would be fairer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Really ? Tell that to Kenneth Hansen, Jesper B Monberg, Rasmus Jensen, Peter kildemand, Nikolaj Busk Jacobsen, Ander Thomsen,and Mikkel Michelsen who all rode in Division 1 matches in 2013. Bloody good amateurs eh And tell us all, what did all those riders come in on when they first, came to this country?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 And tell us all, what did all those riders come in on when they first, came to this country?? A 7.00 point average! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) And tell us all, what did all those riders come in on when they first, came to this country??man alive... A plane via Stanstead Edited December 21, 2013 by Arson fire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) And tell us all, what did all those riders come in on when they first, came to this country?? Why not find out for yourself, or are you mentally incapable or just plain lazy ? Tell you what, go and check the PL Greensheets on the BSPA website and you'll discover that Rasmus Jensen still has an assessed average of 7.00. Edited December 21, 2013 by cyclone 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Brady Kurtz is not a 3, and he's not a 5 either. He's an assessed 7.00 average. If the other promoters let this go then more fool them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 And tell us all, what did all those riders come in on when they first, came to this country?? Do you need it explained a few more times until you get the message? The rules are the rules, he rode in Denmark, he is a 7, end of debate. I really hope the BSPA reject Somersets team and they are left in limbo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Like to see this correspondence that Somerset and Kurtz senior state confirms Kurtz was allowed to ride in the Danish Elite League during 2013 and then ride in the PL in 2014 on a 3. I'd be very surprised if it exists. It will be the old 'we spoke to some guy on the phone who said yeah that's fine'. If it was verbal only, then that shows total naivety and suggests maybe Kurtz needs to change his advisers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Like to see this correspondence that Somerset and Kurtz senior state confirms Kurtz was allowed to ride in the Danish Elite League during 2013 and then ride in the PL in 2014 on a 3. I'd be very surprised if it exists. It will be the old 'we spoke to some guy on the phone who said yeah that's fine'. If it was verbal only, then that shows total naivety and suggests maybe Kurtz needs to change his advisers. I dont see why there seems to have been this 'regular clarification' of the situation when the rule is so clear. There are paragraphs in the rule book that are open to interpretation due to poor wording but the section in this regard is crystal clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Rules are if you ride in a pro-league you come in on a 7. Did Kurtz ride in the Danish League? Yes or no? As for unproven, in his Danish League meetings he beat Kenneth Bjerre and Kenneth Hansen. So maybe a 6 point EL average would be fairer? I have read most of the thoughts on this episode and my first thought was this has nothing to do with Denmark and more to do with someone stopping Somerset from getting young Brady on a false starting average. I wouldn't mind betting if he was starting for Edinburgh or Newcastle he would be on a 3.00. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 I have read most of the thoughts on this episode and my first thought was this has nothing to do with Denmark and more to do with someone stopping Somerset from getting young Brady on a false starting average. I wouldn't mind betting if he was starting for Edinburgh or Newcastle he would be on a 3.00. Super post mate, nice one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 I have read most of the thoughts on this episode and my first thought was this has nothing to do with Denmark and more to do with someone stopping Somerset from getting young Brady on a false starting average. I wouldn't mind betting if he was starting for Edinburgh or Newcastle he would be on a 3.00. Your right he was on a false starting average that is why it has been put up but it's still wrong! Now your second point is just laughable really. The classsic conspiricy theory 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricca Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 I have read most of the thoughts on this episode and my first thought was this has nothing to do with Denmark and more to do with someone stopping Somerset from getting young Brady on a false starting average. I wouldn't mind betting if he was starting for Edinburgh or Newcastle he would be on a 3.00. so you agree he is on a false starting average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 so you agree he is on a false starting average. But is he on a false starting average? He un-proven over here.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricca Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 why does he need to be proven here? he has rode in denmark that is proof enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 But is he on a false starting average? He un-proven over here..The Laguta brothers are unproven over here as are dozens of Poles Danes and Swedes - should they all be on a 3? No - thats why criteria for other categories are set such as experience riding in other professional leagues each with a different assessed average. Its one of the clearer sections of the rule book. For some those set levels will appear too high and for others too low but it is the most appropriate course of action. There should however be no judgement as to whether the average is 'false' for an individual only that the correct category has been applied. As yet this has not happened with Brady Kurtz. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 And tell us all, what did all those riders come in on when they first, came to this country?? i take it that is a pish take question?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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