Alan_Jones Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) * SCB Quote"No, it was never a 5. It was always a 7."---------------------------------------------------------------* HalifaxTiger Quote"Was it ?I ask because to be a 7.00 you have to be category 2:'Riders with an "end of the previous season’s published average" in the Polish Ekstraliga or Swedish Elitserien of 6.00 and below plus ALL other Riders riding currently in any Professional Speedway League' - the crucial words being 'riding currently'(it doesn't say 'has ridden').Is he riding in the Danish (or any other professional)League in 2014 ? If not, I'd say he's a 5.00.Whatever the case, I simply do not know how Somerset - or the BSPA - got it that he was a 3.00, because the qualifying condition is clear:'Riders who have ridden in the National Development League as an Amateur '.Why did they even need to ask ?"---------------------------------------------------------------------------* SCB Quote"Thats the only way they get away with it as he is not "currently" riding in another "Professional Speedway League". I'd argue that until 2014 kicks off he is currently riding in the Danish league though."--------------------------------------------------------------------------- The above quotes are the relevant opposing views. It's typical of the way speedway's regulations are badly thrown together and I can fully understand the Rebels faithful going with HT's view. IMO, if the Polish and Swedish averages are to be taken at the end of the previous season then there is no justifiable reason for that proviso not to apply to the other professional leagues.The Kings' Lynn guest fiasco was another situation where 2 conflicting forms of words were interpreted in both ways at different times by the BSPA MC and the SCB Tribunal.In the days when we had guests decided by differing home and away averages the change in regulation had been proposed by Neil Machin. On the first occasion that he needed to apply for a guest himself, he was amazed to have his first choice turned down. On further investigation he found that the regulation as published was worded differently to the one they had voted in at the AGM.Brady Kurtz is a 7 but I won't be holding my breath waiting for the correct decision to be made.Of course, the other possible variable is that we are basing our views on all current disputes on the 2013 regulations and there is absolutely no way we'll know if there are any significant changes for 2014 until much further down the road.* Apologies for the odd quote formatting. This is the 4th attempt because the forum wouldn't let me multiquote for some reason. Edited January 30, 2014 by Alan_Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Quoted in todays Speedway Star that the BSPA chairman is having a meeting with MP's and the Border Agency to try to resolve this matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Quoted in todays Speedway Star that the BSPA chairman is having a meeting with MP's and the Border Agency to try to resolve this matter Also stated that it will be unlikely to have a positive impact for this year but hope to get it sorted for the future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 If I were the Hancock family, I would be seriously wondering why I bother trying to run a speedway club! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 If I were the Hancock family, I would be seriously wondering why I bother trying to run a speedway club! Why? It just doesn't affect Somerset.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I see Jason Doyle has tweeted he his hearing positive news. Fingers crossed it's regarding his visa. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Ty Proctor in for Jason Doyle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Ty Proctor in for Jason Doyle. Be interesting to see how many meetings Ty misses for Somerset compared to Nick Morris as this yet again looks like a kid in the teeth for Nick. Understandable if there is a massive difference but would've pre-ferred Nick to Ty if I was a Somerset fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Somerset probably see Proctor as more of a rock steady number one and like for like replacement for Doyle rather than Nick who will need another season before he reaches those heady heights. Shame there is no Nick, Alex, Doyley or Kyle though. A major chunk of the title winning team gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Need Brady to get a 7 plus average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Need Brady to get a 7 plus average.before or after the season starts?! wink 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Najjer, Willowman , Starman2006, where for art thou !!! Proctor is no Doyle , Nick Morris would have been a better choice he is much more of an up and coming prospect imo. Proctor going to miss meetings too by the looks of things so wouldn't have been any worse off having Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Somerset probably see Proctor as more of a rock steady number one and like for like replacement for Doyle rather than Nick who will need another season before he reaches those heady heights. Shame there is no Nick, Alex, Doyley or Kyle though. A major chunk of the title winning team gone. I can't see that as Nick is mustard at Somerset & a better all round rider than Ty who is also coming back from a serious injury. Ollie is used to being a No 1 as well so they might have swapped places early in the season but would've fully expected Nick to finish as No 1 in the end. It also would've given Somerset another rider form the successful team of last season which would also have put bums on seats so too speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Won't score you the points Doyle would of scored. Doyle by the end of this season would have had an average of 10+ Proctors average wil drop to just below 9 IMO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Najjer, Willowman , Starman2006, where for art thou !!! Proctor is no Doyle , Nick Morris would have been a better choice he is much more of an up and coming prospect imo. Proctor going to miss meetings too by the looks of things so wouldn't have been any worse off having Nick Absent due to sorting out travel in London for my boy, but still here thanks. He couldn't have picked a better couple of days to go to 'The Smoke'! Well at least it is finally sorted. If Ty can get back to the position he was in before injury (like a few other riders) then we should still be a competitive team. Perhaps last season may end up as the last Doyley will have in the PL. It was great to have him at Somerset but perhaps this is the beginning of a new era. I would personally still have liked Josh and Nick to head into that new era, but hindsight is such a wonderful thing. P.S. Come on Somerset, a bit of respect is due. Get the signing of Ty on the website at least at the same time as the BSPA website. Welcome to Somerset Ty. Edited February 5, 2014 by Willowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 If Nick does get fixed up with another PL team it will be worth a visit to Somerset to see him get a max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Never been fully convinced by Ty Proctor, best of what was left I would say but 8 point average I reckon. Doyle would have hit 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Ty is a gutsy rider that will no doubt become a favourite, but Morris surely would have been the better scorer. You have to wonder if Somerset have approached Morris about a return or not? Maybe the fixture list has tempted to go another way instead. Great opportunity for Ty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Najjer, Willowman , Starman2006, where for art thou !!! Proctor is no Doyle , Nick Morris would have been a better choice he is much more of an up and coming prospect imo. Proctor going to miss meetings too by the looks of things so wouldn't have been any worse off having Nick Based on the current fixtures and not including any potential play off clashes Ty will miss 5 meetings. Nick would miss 11 and if he enters the World U21 individuals and is selected for the Aussie U 21 squad this (including practice days) could potentially add another 7 meetings to that list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 IMO Procter is overrated and has not lived up to the hype that he is always given certainly no Doyle.Wish him the best of luck though and an injury free season.Somerset will do well if they finish top 4 IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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