stevebrum Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 The reason the airhorns have only been a problem this time is because normally there would only be a few away fans at Brum at any one time. On Tuesday there were hundreds and hundreds of Poole fans in attendance. Many didn't have a clue about no airhorns ( I am guessing 95%) so there was bound to be some noise. No excuse for abuse though. And no excuse for Brum fans cheering THJ's fall, not that we have gone on about it. :rofl: Of course you all know about the airhorns ban, as for cheering riders when they fall - Poole fans are experts at that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_art Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 The reason the airhorns have only been a problem this time is because normally there would only be a few away fans at Brum at any one time. On Tuesday there were hundreds and hundreds of Poole fans in attendance. Many didn't have a clue about no airhorns ( I am guessing 95%) so there was bound to be some noise. No excuse for abuse though. And no excuse for Brum fans cheering THJ's fall, not that we have gone on about it. There were many more Edinburgh fans and many more Newcastle fans. They both won but didn't use airhorns so hire were Poole different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 :rofl: Of course you all know about the airhorns ban, as for cheering riders when they fall - Poole fans are experts at that too. Heard it plenty of times at monmore too but when it was at poole it was page after page of rants about how bad we are, just saying for balance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Oh no ..not more talk about fans cheering when a riders falls zzzzzzz some fans of all club do it and always will .why people bring it up everytime when it happens like it's something new and never happens at there track amazes me . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Guitar Art - From speaking to people connected to the club you are partially right about music played during the presentation the cebtregreen announcer was a guy called Rob Sensicall who does the Leicester centre green presentation and the interviews there who I thought did a good balanced job although had to be told to quieten down a bit as coming across to loud on the Sky coverage. The music was done and played by Chris Simpson who is the usual Birmingham centregreen presenter but is currently not able to do the job as his SCB license has been revoked due to comments on here and social media. So the Abba song was his way of getting back at the SCB, I have to agree that it was an inappropriate song to play but does personally not surprise me after visiting Brandon earlier in the year and him playing Jim will fix it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david2905 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Are there signs? Didn't see any and as it was dark i would be suprised if any away fans noticed the signs, not that i had an air horn. I don't see anyone would be bothered about being searched, happens everywhere these days. Had it not been the end of the season I would have gone and took a pic of them, as it is you'd have to wait till March for proof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Guitar Art - From speaking to people connected to the club you are partially right about music played during the presentation the cebtregreen announcer was a guy called Rob Sensicall who does the Leicester centre green presentation and the interviews there who I thought did a good balanced job although had to be told to quieten down a bit as coming across to loud on the Sky coverage. The music was done and played by Chris Simpson who is the usual Birmingham centregreen presenter but is currently not able to do the job as his SCB license has been revoked due to comments on here and social media. So the Abba song was his way of getting back at the SCB, I have to agree that it was an inappropriate song to play but does personally not surprise me after visiting Brandon earlier in the year and him playing Jim will fix it Interesting stuff....Who are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david2905 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 This had nothing to do with Poole winning or losing and yes it would have come up no matter what the result. I will try to explain why. 26 years. That's why. That's how long we were without speedway in Birmingham. I have had to endure waiting on four separate occasions since 2007 for councils to vote on letting the Brummies run.And the issue each time? Noise of course. On one occasion we were given only one year to run and to get the noise down. We were fortunate that the new silencers came in and that saved our bacon. To put some perspective on this, I'm 30 in 8 months, and don't remember speedway in Birmingham prior to 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 The Mic man is not connected to Birmingham and was a last minute replacement so why would he have sour grapes? He did congratulate the Poole team over the Mic but got moved out if the way by sky. The music was picked by the guy in the box and was again nothing to do with Birmingham. Your promoter said it was sour grapes!!!! Poole would do well to get some sponsorship from SpecSavers then, encourage their fans to get their eyes tested eh :-S We already actually have sponsorship from Specsavers! No joke! The issue maybe that no poole fan has apologised because maybe the fans that used the air horns do not post on this forum, there are some fans that dont go on forums!! Common sense doesn't enter people's heads when spouting anti-poole rubbish! Think airhorn gate is a bit of an overreaction. Although why did they not warn these fans that if they continued to do it there would be removed from the stadium? Then it least if it gets back to the council you can show them that you dealt with it swiftly! Just a thought.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateandi Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Going back to Danny king looks as though middlo was right in hindsight in not picking him for team GB having bottled it in no uncertain terms in the final ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Going back to Danny king looks as though middlo was right in hindsight in not picking him for team GB having bottled it in no uncertain terms in the final ! Maybe a bit harsh. Crashed in both legs, not sure how the crash at poole effected him to make that sort of judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry The Cat Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Guitar Art - From speaking to people connected to the club you are partially right about music played during the presentation the cebtregreen announcer was a guy called Rob Sensicall who does the Leicester centre green presentation and the interviews there who I thought did a good balanced job although had to be told to quieten down a bit as coming across to loud on the Sky coverage. The music was done and played by Chris Simpson who is the usual Birmingham centregreen presenter but is currently not able to do the job as his SCB license has been revoked due to comments on here and social media. So the Abba song was his way of getting back at the SCB, I have to agree that it was an inappropriate song to play but does personally not surprise me after visiting Brandon earlier in the year and him playing Jim will fix it Can't help himself it seems! Remember he got sacked by BSI after playing "the winker song" as Nicki Pedersen walked off the track at Cardiff, he has got the chop from Coventry as well this week. I wonder if Phillips will stand by him after this, that's if the BSPA don't extend his suspension further of course! Seems the self proclaimed music man of speedway, has well and truly shot himself in the foot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 We already actually have sponsorship from Specsavers! No joke! Is it them who pay the meeting referee. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) Can't help himself it seems! Remember he got sacked by BSI after playing "the winker song" as Nicki Pedersen walked off the track at Cardiff, he has got the chop from Coventry as well this week. I wonder if Phillips will stand by him after this, that's if the BSPA don't extend his suspension further of course! Seems the self proclaimed music man of speedway, has well and truly shot himself in the foot! The music choice was like a funeral march when Poole were being presented, followed by Money money money. Came across as serious sour grapes from the Brum promotion. Perhaps they should make sure he never gets close to the music played at Brum again? Tanished Brums image. Actually, he posts on here so perhaps he could answer why he did it? Edited October 17, 2013 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGT Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 The reason the airhorns have only been a problem this time is because normally there would only be a few away fans at Brum at any one time. On Tuesday there were hundreds and hundreds of Poole fans in attendance. Hilarious mate, absolutely. Oh no ..not more talk about fans cheering when a riders falls zzzzzzz some fans of all club do it and always will .why people bring it up everytime when it happens like it's something new and never happens at there track amazes me . How many fans who moan about this were fans in the 60s/70s? Jesus Christ, Cradley around then was an eye opener and that was just one example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Had it not been the end of the season I would have gone and took a pic of them, as it is you'd have to wait till March for proof. I didnt say I didnt believe there were signs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david2905 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) Going back to Danny king looks as though middlo was right in hindsight in not picking him for team GB having bottled it in no uncertain terms in the final ! Even as a Brummie I'm starting to have doubts about King for 2014, under normal circumstances he's a reliable 7.5 rider easy, but I'm noticing a tend for him to end up on the deck in pressure heats/matches, suggests an issue more in the head (nerves ?) than any technical deficiancy, I recall he was similar in the semi V Swindon last year. Just frustrating to have someone score double figures consistently at home then go AWOL in the play offs and occasional last heat decider. Edited October 17, 2013 by david2905 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Even as a Brummie I'm starting to have doubts about King for 2014, under normal circumstances he's a reliable 7.5 rider easy, but I'm noticing a tend for him to end up on the deck in pressure heats/matches, suggests an issue more in the head (nerves ?) than any technical deficiancy, I recall he was similar in the semi V Swindon last year. Just frustrating to have someone score double figures consistently at home then go AWOL in the play offs and occasional last heat decider. I dont believe that, I think he was just unlucky, pressure got to doyle in heat 1 at poole but over both legs by far your best rider. I have always been a fan of danny king and he deserved a world cup place, how can he be left out and Barker left in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Crew Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Good spot SGP. if you google Barry the cat and graham drury there is an interesting link. Seems you have slipped up there boyo! What's that old saying about keep your friends close and your enemies closer! Perhaps you should be sticking up for your employee rather than trying to shaft him at every given opportunity? Or maybe sometimes you can't defend the indefensible? Just a thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poole Quay 7 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) The air horns ban was imposed by Birmingham City Council as a condition of the planning consent. Bells, rattles and fireworks were not banned so there is no point in making comparisons in noise levels between these and air horns. The chief planning officer at Birmingham did everything he could to persuade the Planning Committee to refuse the planning application and one of his reasons was that "the supporters use air horns." When it was suggested that their use could be prohibited he claimed that this would be unenforceable. Fortunately for us, the Committee over-ruled his recommendation and approved a planning consent subject to a total of 68 conditions, one of which was that air horns would not be used. It was made very clear to us from the onset that if we did not comply with all of the conditions then the planning approval could be withdrawn,so those people from Poole who adopted such a boorish attitude last Tuesday will have put the future of Birmingham Speedway in jeopardy if there should be any complaints made by local residents. For what it is worth, I think the air horn ban is nonsensical and would only cause a nuisance if they were to be sounded in the streets around the stadium which have residential homes in them, but the request not to use them was reasonable and made politely and there was no need for the kind of ill-mannered reaction that resulted. It might be logical to say as an earlier poster did "Oh come on - it was a cup final" but the sour faces in the planning office wouldn't see it like that - they would just see it as being a vindication of their claim that the air horns ban can't be enforced. I would emphasise that what I have written is aimed at th a comparatively small number of Poole supporters and that the vast majority were happy to put away their horns when asked to do so and had no difficulty in making their presence known by their cheering. There are no "sour grapes" intended. Poole were very worthy winners and although I would have liked to see my own team win, I have no complaint about the result or the conduct of the majority of Poole supporters who were fully entitled to enjoy their success and to celebrate accordingly. Personally, I find this statement both fair and balanced. It's unfortunate that given any large group of people attending a sporting event like football/speedway etc, you will have a small minority who spoil it for the vast majority of fans. I have seen this with my own eyes at Villa Park, AFC Bournemouth etc etc....you name it and there will be various incidents which leave the vast majority of decent fans annoyed. However, I'm pretty sure that collectively, the Poole supporters didn't visit Perry Barr with the intention to deliberately cause trouble but a few got carried away with the occasion and ignored the requests to stop. There are no excuses and I'm sorry to hear that this happened and I sincerely hope that no complaints was made to Birmingham City council by local residents who I would hope, would take into consideration, the importance of the occasion. That is my own take on the matter and it is all I indeed to say. It happened, so please can we learn some lessons and move on to next season. As always, good luck to the Birmingham Brummies in your efforts to build another exciting team that once again, you can be proud of. Edited October 18, 2013 by Poole Quay 7 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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